Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by nevesis, Mar 27, 2021.
Yea that pretty much sums it up. Thank you.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Over the last two weeks, Lemieux has been on the ice for a lot of important goals. Against.
And if there was ever a draft where I’m comfortable having a handful of lottery tickets, it’s this draft. There will be a lot of uneven player evaluation this year due to the compressed schedules. The Rangers have a punchers chance to find a couple of gems in the third and fourth round.
Bingo. Major market teams with large (and expensive) scouting teams have a LARGE leg-up with this draft.
Bonus is the Kings 4th will be very high in the round.
Buffalo and Arizona will be drafting names out of the Hockey News
Great players will thrive in most environments as bad players will fail. The players who benefit most from good coaching and good structural systems are those in the middle.
Looking at you David (Wally Pipp) Quinn.
Down season? When did he ever have up season?
PDG is more physical and with his speed doesn’t take himself out of play to throw one.
Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick. You can get some good players in the 4th if you scout correctly. Shesterkin was a 4th as well.
Over / under it will be a goalie pick?
Someone here asked if Tony DeAngelo was tight with Brendan Lemieux.
This should answer that question.
Newsflash, young hockey player teammates are friends.
Yup. And I answered the question. Specifically.
Decreasing production from the year prior, and the year prior to that.
That’s a down season
besides the obvious of making room for Kravtsov, Brendan really didn't show much in terms of skill just definitely a 4th rounder with some penchant for hitting but also adding some of the most stupid of penalties in inopportune times. Wasn't a standup guy with the refs and often lost some of those questionable calls going against him, just because. Being an agitator you want to end up on the positive side of the ledger and that didn't happen with Lemieux very often. It's obvious that we are not finished with the rebuild by a long shot yet, as we accumulate more and more draft picks. Young players in the system to replace older ones as we fight against the cap in the 3-4 yrs down the road. Whats not to like.
Hope they have a plan regarding this. Even Keith Jones mentioned Rangers getting softer and easier to play against.
Needing the spot for Kravtsov is one thing, but shouldnt be "we'll figure out later who will fill that void". He seemed to draw alot of penalties in his miniscule PT, but guess Gorton figured that "void" isnt really that large or difficult to replace.
If we somehow make the PO's, that may be a move they will live to regret. Bet he does well in L.A. (if they allow him to play the way he would like to) we will see. I know, I am very curious on how this plays out, will give me a reason to watch a Kings team that is very surprising.
And I suppose neither do I, regardless that I defend him. I am thinking each and every one of us, were "happy with his acquisition", but slowly became disenchanted as we all wanted more value, bang for the buck. Doesnt make a whole lot, like you mentioned, maybe we all were just disappointed that he didnt get better and actually produce from time to time.
If I remember correctly, he had had a 3 or 4 goal outburst in like 4or 5 games last year. A little bit more like that would have been outstanding. Oh well.
P.S. Sorry HF, if I put words in your mouth.
Rangers currently have 2 3rds (theirs and buffalo) and 3 4ths (theirs, LA, Ottawa). They currently do not have a 2nd.
Those picks could be used as ammo to move down into the 2nd if they see someone they like dropping.
Or maybe Gorton noticed that the idea of a Lemieux was much better than the real deal. Lemieux was not really playing physically. He was not really agitating the other team.
Yes, the team needs more attitude and physical play, but Lemieux was imply not providing it. As Gorton has spoken about this for a while, I believe that making the team tougher to play against will be handled both organically through the draft as well as in asset acquisition. But the possible returns in a a trade will probably not match the offensive points given up.
How did the Rangers prevent him playing like he wants to?
The Rangers aren't softer after the Lemieux trade. He barely impacted the team the way he played
Like many, I had high hopes that he'd deliver on what was seen as his promise
BUT, as a Ranger, he never actually became any of a deterrent, a physical presence, or a distracting agitator.
He never earned a full-time job at W
For me, the only enduring memory from his 2 year tenure was the Montreal comeback game.
It's not like Lemieux is a great loss, but I also question the timing of this, with an upcoming draft and all that. A 4th round pick is nothing to write home about. This must be a lateral move to make room for another player, like you're on to in here.
They're not softer nor are they easier to play against. The idea of Brendan Lemieux and what he should be was never consistently matched by what he actually was.
Exactly. If he was the player some people paint him to be, I'd have no problem with him being on the team. But he isn't good at what are considered the assets that make him valuable, if that makes sense.
At some point, the bad outweigh the good and a team moves on. A 4th round pick is a nice return.
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