Confirmed with Link: Brendan Lemieux signs one year deal.

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Then they better find some. Ridiculous to be messing around with top young player during a rebuild. Give him hims 1.25 and move on already Jesus.

More Ridiculous to be giving in to middling players with noted maturity issues when there is no cap room.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

But the big difference is Lemieux signed. Holding out is fine for ADA through tomorrow. Once he starts missing camp, he's only hurting himself and his earning potential going forward, with ultimately minimal damage to a rangers organization still rebuilding.

And budging on Lemieux’s offer only gives DeAngelo more incentive to wait longer, this is on the Rangers too

More Ridiculous to be giving in to middling players with noted maturity issues when there is no cap room.

Enough cap space to give him $1.25m

 

[The Crypto Guy]

More Ridiculous to be giving in to middling players with noted maturity issues when there is no cap room.

Yea so we should just give up him in I guess. I guess he will never mature since he's already so old. Forget an extremely talented offensive defensman who brings an edge to his game. What will we ever do with him taking a bad penalty every few games. Lets forgets all the points he would put up in the process.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

This is what always happens. People will pencil some prospect in as an instant stud in the NHL because they looked good at a prospect camp or did really well at an easier level, like they are doing now with Fox and Kravtsov. Then when that player goes through some growing pains adjusting to the toughest hockey league in the world before they're old enough to legally have a drink, people will decide they are a bust, like they are doing now with Lias and Chytil. Then even if the player turns into a good NHL player who can fill a key role at a young age, people will want to trade them because they assume that some new prospect who is barely scoring more in a junior league than the developed player has in the NHL is going to be way better, like they're doing with Skjei.

Prospect development is an uneven process that takes time and only infrequently results in players who are perennial all-stars and surefire hall-of-famers, so just be patient and have reasonable expectations.

Not really anybody is saying that though. We are talking about a protracted ADA holdout scenario where ADA is not in the lineup giving Fox the opportunity to take his minutes and PP time.

Also, Fox is going to play. If the Rangers didn't think he was ready, they wouldn't have given up multiple draft picks for a guy who pretty much indicated he was going to go back to Harvard and become a UFA next summer so he could sign with the Rangers then. He might struggle, and he might play some in Hartford, but the Rangers are going to be giving him every opportunity to take minutes with the big club, especially if ADA is holding out.

 

[ohbaby]

Enough cap space to give him $1.25m

Now that Lemieux is signed, the picture is clearer and they will work out a contract for ADA. No worries guys. It will get done sooner than later.

 

[Levitate]

I don’t get why people take it so personally when a player wants more money. People get so pissed off...

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Now that Lemieux is signed, the picture is clearer and they will work out a contract for ADA. No worries guys. I will get done sooner than later.

I’m not too worried either. I think at minimum I’d like him to get 2 preseason games in, but I’m not going to be mad at the guy if this goes past that (I wasn’t mad at Stepan or Dubinsky either)

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Yea so we should just give up him in I guess. I guess he will never mature since he's already so old. Forget an extremely talented offensive defensman who brings an edge to his game. What will we ever do with him taking a bad penalty every few games. Lets forgets all the points he would put up in the process.

Literally nobody is saying that. Right now ADA is a middling defensemen with a lot of potential and maturity issues. He's got no leverage and the Rangers have no cap room. He can sit, miss some time, which will most likely negatively impact his season, and then go into next summer when he has arbitration rights with not much to bring to the negotiating table. Or he can sign his deal for around 1 mil, play hard, stay out of trouble, develop his game, and go into next summer holding all the cards while showing the Rangers how mature he can be.

 

[Joey Bones]

Why on earth would I want HFBoards to email me?

Quote of the night!!

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

I don’t get why people take it so personally when a player wants more money. People get so pissed off...

Not pissed off, just think in this particular scenario a protracted hold out would be incredibly dumb. I want ADA in the lineup, but if chooses to die on this hill for a small raise to the point where he messes up future earning potential so be it. It wouldn't be disaterous for the Rangers, Fox would get more developmental time and the Rangers might get closer to another top draft choice. If ADA signs tomorrow then great, Rangers are better and ADA gets to develop more.

 

[ohbaby]

I’m not too worried either. I think at minimum I’d like him to get 2 preseason games in, but I’m not going to be mad at the guy if this goes past that (I wasn’t mad at Stepan or Dubinsky either)

I don't think it will go that far. Stepan or Dubinsky were for longer term deals. ADA is only about a few extra bucks this season. That's all he can seriously hope for. This will be over soon.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

I don't think it will go that far. Stepan or Dubinsky were for longer term deals. ADA is only about a few extra bucks this year. That's all he can seriously hope for.

Exactly. I'm assuming he signs tomorrow. Any protracted hold out would be monumentally dumb on ADA's part.

 

[Alluckks]

DeAngelo better sign before Bereglazov takes his job!

 

[RangersFan1994]

925,000 apparently

New York Rangers news: Brendan Lemieux agrees to 1-year contract

 

[n8]

If ADA is signing a 1 yr contract, then 925k as well. I don't give him more unless he's giving us more years.

 

[Kakko]

Offer sheets don't happen, but if I was a GM with any amount of cap, I'd offer DeAngelo 1.35 weeks ago

 

[aufheben]

Good. This kid needs to be a part of the team's future. Genes that douchey don't come along very often.

Funny story: my boss is good friends with Claude and has been involved in Brendan’s life ever since he was a kid. My boss stayed with Brendan when he visited Winnipeg several times over the past few years; he’s also developed a friendship with Roslovic. Anyway, Jack and Brendan were in town a few weekends ago, and the three played some pickup hockey.

I asked my boss what the two were like. He said Jack is a good kid; Brendan is a scoundrel (he didn’t phrase it so nicely) “just like his father.”

It gave me a chuckle.

A scoundrel.

Curious if he managed to get a decent bump. I assume he's arbitration eligible next summer?

Yeppers.

 

[Jayan]

Can we tell Haley to not attend training camp now? Im seriously worried he might injure someone.

 

[SA16]

Offer sheets don't happen, but if I was a GM with any amount of cap, I'd offer DeAngelo 1.35 weeks ago

I don’t think he’d sign that. He certainly wouldn’t for multiple years and then you just have to ask if he’d want to leave NY, near his hometown, for 300-400k on one year. And then if you bump the number up you start getting into compensation range so I don’t think an offer sheet for him really works.

 

[RangerBoy]

I wonder what the main factors were for the Rangers increasing the offer? Maybe they appreciated that he came in a month ahead of time to work with Prentiss and get into shape? Who knows. Glad he's done, though.

The entry level guys have a $925,000 base. Maybe Lemieux didn't want to make less than the entry level guys.

 

[haohmaru]

I don’t get why people take it so personally when a player wants more money. People get so pissed off...

Not really about that - I'm all for guys getting what they deserve when the time is right. That time isn't now. DeAngelo was scratched for 25% of the games last season and a lot of that was NOT about his play. He's got no leverage, the Rangers have no cap space to go bigger and offer longer term for more money, and ADA has competition for "his spot" crossing their fingers that he holds out (for what will amount to essentially nothing) so they get a longer look.

If the Rangers have offered Lemieux $925K then you can bet that's been floated, and obviously rejected, by the ADA camp. He should sign, have a good season and improve his value/leverage, and cash in next summer.

 

[pld459666]

Love how i get spammed with that when i log into HFBoards all the time now. It's 2019, nobody wants a crummy newsletter. We all get more than enough spam in our email.

More so now since they discontinued the Hockeys Future site containing all teams prospects and articles and rankings.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Give ADA 1M

Keep one of McKegg/Boo on as an extra (assuming Lias can stick)

we carry 22 players w/ ~800k of operating space.

time to be done with this.


edit: forgot about Kravtsov...

 

[NYSPORTS]

I don’t get why people take it so personally when a player wants more money. People get so pissed off...

IDK, kept reading about how Lemieux had no leverage (cut and dry). The CBA dollars aren’t relative when you compare the cost or rent of real estate in NY vs other markets. My gosh, Zuccarello’s place (which somehow keeps popping up on too many of my Rangers searches) cost millions whereas the same place would 75% less in many markets.

His agent can do the math and despite the CBA, they held on for more and guess what? They got it.

Glad to have him

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I’m thrilled. Really liked what I saw from BL. And I think he is an important part of this team. Feel like he gets a little lost in the sea of all our shiny, new young guys.