Player Discussion: Brayden Point

[DFC]

This gets thrown out a lot, and while there's definitely some truth to it, it's really overexaggerated. Look at where Point's shots are coming from:

vs his goals scored:

He's a very opportunistic shooter. It's not like he's shooting from everywhere and all of his shots are going in. Most of his goals scored are coming from right in the slot.

This. He's going to shoot at a higher % than you would think, just judging by his shot. Like, he doesn't shoot as well as Stamkos or Kucherov, but he could maintain a similar % just because of how many A-grade chances he gets, many of which he creates for himself. He scores on his IQ rather than anything physical. (He won't stay above 20, but I think 15-16 is realistic.)

 

[Rschmitz]

I don't even know that I agree that they're more hungry. I think the margin is more about Stamkos shooting the puck, Point going from a good 2C to an elite 1C, and McDonagh. And Johnson, and Joseph, and Cirelli, and Cernak, and Coburn, and Killorn. Even when we DO coast (and we do), we're good enough to either coast to a win, or wake up for two minutes and put our opponent down.

So many of our guys just look like peak versions of themselves. That wasn't true last year, even when we were winning--at least, it wasn't true up and down the lineup. Like, we didn't have this version of Coburn last year. And, even though Killorn put up decent points, he didn't look anywhere near this good on a nightly basis. Paquette. The list goes on and on. It just feels like, on any given night, it's only a matter of time before somebody gets it done. (...Usually it's Point.)

It's nice to have guys like Point, Cirelli, Joseph, and Gourde, who no matter what the rest of the team is doing, are going to give you the consistent work ethic and have to skill to score on top of it.

Feels like in the past, when our scoring liners coasted we looked like an AHL team, but even nights like last night where we look like we are coasting, the ice isn't so ridiculously tilted that the game feels out of reach.

 

[Maelmoor]

This gets thrown out a lot, and while there's definitely some truth to it, it's really overexaggerated. Look at where Point's shots are coming from:

vs his goals scored:

He's a very opportunistic shooter. It's not like he's shooting from everywhere and all of his shots are going in. Most of his goals scored are coming from right in the slot.

This. He's going to shoot at a higher % than you would think, just judging by his shot. Like, he doesn't shoot as well as Stamkos or Kucherov, but he could maintain a similar % just because of how many A-grade chances he gets, many of which he creates for himself. He scores on his IQ rather than anything physical. (He won't stay above 20, but I think 15-16 is realistic.)

Those are fair points and I agree that he is a player that can have a higher shooting % than most player's, so 15-16 is realistic for sure, just that the current number is not sustainable long-term.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

 

[RangersHockey15]

Anyone know who Brayden Point's agent is? Or a place to find these things out?

 

[Steazy Doo]

He's one lucky son of a, i'll tell yah hwhat

 

[DMB06]

Curious how everyone thinks this offseason is going to pan out with Point. What's the most likely scenario, Point signing the one year offer, we sign him long term, or he signs elsewhere and we don't match? I really have no clue what's going to happen because we aren't exactly loaded with cap room.

 

[Rschmitz]

Curious how everyone thinks this offseason is going to pan out with Point. What's the most likely scenario, Point signing the one year offer, we sign him long term, or he signs elsewhere and we don't match? I really have no clue what's going to happen because we aren't exactly loaded with cap room.

Most likely he signs an 8 year extension, not very likely that he signs a bridge deal, and not likely at all we sign him to a 1 year deal.

 

[DFC]

Curious how everyone thinks this offseason is going to pan out with Point. What's the most likely scenario, Point signing the one year offer, we sign him long term, or he signs elsewhere and we don't match? I really have no clue what's going to happen because we aren't exactly loaded with cap room.

I'd be just as happy to lock him up, if possible. Two-way players of this caliber often get better as they mature. I don't think there are any serious questions about his will to win. If I had to bet on a single player in the league not getting complacent after getting paid, this is the kid.

 

[DMB06]

I'd be just as happy to lock him up, if possible. Two-way players of this caliber often get better as they mature. I don't think there are any serious questions about his will to win. If I had to bet on a single player in the league not getting complacent after getting paid, this is the kid.

I agree, and I'd love to lock him up too. But with Vas up for a long term deal and all our recent long term signings I hope BP isn't going anywhere. If there's one guy you make moves to create room for it's him.

I'd never want this to go down but I have to imagine there are only a handful of players in the league who would bring in a bigger haul via trade than he would given his production/age. I seriously doubt he's going anywhere this offseason but in the off chance he does sign a deal we aren't willing to match I'll forever be curious what we could have traded him for.

 

[Bolt 45]

Even with all our talent, this is a very different team without Point. Lock him up long-term, and do what ever it takes cap-wise to make it happen. We've got a few $5 mil guys who are totally expendable if it means the difference between keeping Point or not.

 

[Hoek]

I still think there's a decent chance he gets bridged, but definitely significantly lower than before the season.

 

[Hoek]

Anyone know who Brayden Point's agent is? Or a place to find these things out?

This article that printed today is the first time I've seen his agent's name: Gerry Johansson.

Brayden Point is one of the NHL’s top goal scorers. Soon the Lightning may have to pay him like one.

 

[LightningStrikes]

This article that printed today is the first time I've seen his agent's name: Gerry Johansson.

Brayden Point is one of the NHL’s top goal scorers. Soon the Lightning may have to pay him like one.

Other clients of his are Getzlaf, Price, Seabrook and Lucic. All guys that got paid big time.
He's also the agent of Coburn and former Bolts Rich Panik and Brett Connolly.

Full list of his clients: Contracts by Agent | Puckpedia

 

[BowDownToVasilevskiy]

Other clients of his are Getzlaf, Price, Seabrook and Lucic. All guys that got paid big time.
He's also the agent of Coburn and former Bolts Rich Panik and Brett Connolly.

Full list of his clients: Contracts by Agent | Puckpedia

Looks like his agent knows how to get his players the big dollars.

 

[LordZapp]

Don't need to worry since he's going to get offersheeted

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Don't need to worry since he's going to get offersheeted

Honestly doubt Point would sign anywhere else.

He’s got a good head on his shoulders doubt he goes that far for money...

 

[LightningStrikes]

He's one lucky son of a, i'll tell yah hwhat

 

[YotesFan47]

I'm here in peace.

If you did end up having to move Point, what do you expect JB would be looking for in return? Something specific or BPO? Do you think he would rather play the offer sheet game and match if needed?

 

[The Macho King]

I'm here in peace.

If you did end up having to move Point, what do you expect JB would be looking for in return? Something specific or BPO? Do you think he would rather play the offer sheet game and match if needed?

We're not moving Point. End of discussion.

 

[JoVel]

I'm here in peace.

If you did end up having to move Point, what do you expect JB would be looking for in return? Something specific or BPO? Do you think he would rather play the offer sheet game and match if needed?

There's zero change of that happening. And if the impossible happened then we'd ask for the moon in return. Possibly more since many don't realize the value that Point's name has. You can't even imagine how hilarious the puns are. I die of laughter every time. They never get old.

 

[YotesFan47]

There's zero change of that happening. And if the impossible happened then we'd ask for the moon in return. Possibly more since many don't realize the value that Point's name has. You can't even imagine how hilarious the puns are. I die of laughter every time. They never get old.

We're not moving Point. End of discussion.

I agree, I figure there are other bodies you move before Point if needed but signing Point to say $9.0m would put a lot of strain on the franchise. This is especially true because you have 3 UFA d. That is why I wanted to inquire, see where confidence sat with you guys.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not here to debate trade value from the Coyotes with you guys. This was purely curiosity on his situation.

 

[DFC]

I'm here in peace.

If you did end up having to move Point, what do you expect JB would be looking for in return? Something specific or BPO? Do you think he would rather play the offer sheet game and match if needed?

A top 10 player in the league?

We're not moving him.

 

[DFC]

I agree, I figure there are other bodies you move before Point if needed but signing Point to say $9.0m would put a lot of strain on the franchise. This is especially true because you have 3 UFA d. That is why I wanted to inquire, see where confidence sat with you guys.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not here to debate trade value from the Coyotes with you guys. This was purely curiosity on his situation.

He's probably worth more than 9. Whatever the strain on the franchise, losing him would be worse.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I agree, I figure there are other bodies you move before Point if needed but signing Point to say $9.0m would put a lot of strain on the franchise. This is especially true because you have 3 UFA d. That is why I wanted to inquire, see where confidence sat with you guys.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not here to debate trade value from the Coyotes with you guys. This was purely curiosity on his situation.

We have already accepted that he is getting something similar to that. We gladly would lose Palat or Gourde in order to keep Point, no brainer.