Proposal: Brayden Point to Rangers for the 2nd Overall Pick

[Jaromir Jagr]

As a Rangers fan, I have waited my entire life for the opportunity to draft a player like KK. I am generally pretty pragmatic when it comes to offers including known/unknown quantities, but I would be really upset if the Rangers traded 2OA for anything less than an absurd oversell.

Basically, whatever would make sense in my brain, would not make sense for the other team. That's no knock on Point, but I wouldn't be interested in this deal and I doubt most Rangers fans would.

It also doesn't make sense for Tampa and I would expect them to reject such an offer.

 

[Sky04]

Point played soft and small in the playoffs. Kakko is built for the post season..

Point had 16 points in 17 games last year and lead the charge on Tampa, great argument, KK couldn't even go PPG in the World Jr's

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Point had 16 points in 17 games last year and lead the charge on Tampa, great argument, KK couldn't even go PPG in the World Jr's

17 year olds often do not.

 

[Anthony5967]

Not trading Kakko or Hughes to pay Point $10M+ a year and watch him become a 60pt guy here because we don't have Stamkos, Kucherov, Hedman, Johnson, etc.

 

[Anthony5967]

Like many have said, I would just offer sheet him for $10.5-11 a year and let TB match or take the four picks. Rangers have some high-end prospects and loads of picks, adding Point, Kakko, Kravtsov to a group with Zibanejad, Buchnevich, Kreider, Andersson, Chytil, Howden and Lemieux isn't bad.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Point had 16 points in 17 games last year and lead the charge on Tampa, great argument, KK couldn't even go PPG in the World Jr's

There's many good points to be made as to why Tampa would not trade Point for the 2OA. This is not one of them.

 

[ccman68]

Not trading Kakko or Hughes to pay Point $10M+ a year and watch him become a 60pt guy here because we don't have Stamkos, Kucherov, Hedman, Johnson, etc.

Yes without Tyler f***ing Johnson Point will forget how to play hockey. Just admit that you've never watched him play and don't understand how good he is.

 

[ccman68]

I’d do

#2OA

for

Point
Cernak

Wouldn't trade Cernak straight up for Kakko.

 

[McSuper]

Like the proposal or not, this chestnut here is straight up nonsense considering Kakko’s a higher ranked prospect than what Petersson + Point were when they were drafted.

Doesn't matter where a prospect is rated . Scout and experts try and predict what they will become . They can not see the future . Some prospect may be all they can be others will continue to develop , some will make massive strives forward . No one can predict when a player will mature or measure a player heart and will . Drafting is an educated guess .

Yakupov was rated #1 by most of the experts . He has not develop at all since he was drafted
Puljujarvi was mention as possibly 2nd OA before his draft year started . He end up 3rd OA . Blame Edmonton if you want but it hasn't stopped other player from developing

 

[Anthony5967]

Yes without Tyler ****ing Johnson Point will forget how to play hockey. Just admit that you've never watched him play and don't understand how good he is.

I have seen Point play plenty. Admit you haven't seen Kaapo Kakko take one shift.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Both teams seem to dislike the deal, therefore, the value appears to be right.

 

[Mikeaveli]

Both teams seem to dislike the deal, therefore, the value appears to be right.

Value is right, team needs are way off

 

[bl02]

Point is a terrific player but the way the Rangers are building they need a cost controlled guy who has a chance of being what a top 2 pick can be. Both teams decline

 

[SML2]

Like many have said, I would just offer sheet him for $10.5-11 a year and let TB match or take the four picks. Rangers have some high-end prospects and loads of picks, adding Point, Kakko, Kravtsov to a group with Zibanejad, Buchnevich, Kreider, Andersson, Chytil, Howden and Lemieux isn't bad.

I hope you're kidding. A team with this much uncertainty should not be moving 4 first rounders. Period.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Amazes me how many people think Point is good because of those guys, rather than him making some of those guys look very good.

 

[ccman68]

I have seen Point play plenty. Admit you haven't seen Kaapo Kakko take one shift.

I’ve seen him play a few times. Should be a good first line winger Don’t see franchise level talent there.

 

[Kupo]

Doesn't matter where a prospect is rated .

Did you bother reading the post I quoted? All you did was waste your time posting the obvious. Your post literally had nothing to do with what I said.

 

[Sky04]

I have seen Point play plenty. Admit you haven't seen Kaapo Kakko take one shift.

Not one in the NHL so that means squat.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Point had 16 points in 17 games last year and lead the charge on Tampa, great argument, KK couldn't even go PPG in the World Jr's

He wasn’t on their top line and was just under a point per game as a 17 year old.

Good to know you actually watched him play.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Amazes me how many people think Point is good because of those guys, rather than him making some of those guys look very good.

Why does that amaze you? Kucherov had 40 goals and 84 points in only 74 games in Point’s rookie year, while Stamkos missed 65 games.

I’m not saying Point is a product of Kucherov and Stamkos, but you’re going to have one hell of a hard time convincing people that two players who have scored big time without Point are products of playing with Point.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Both teams seem to dislike the deal, therefore, the value appears to be right.

Is value the only basis for making or not making a trade?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Kakko at 925k is the superior asset over Point at 8 mil. It won’t be even close on a $ per point Basis over the next 3 years. Wilco out.

 

[JoVel]

Not trading Kakko or Hughes to pay Point $10M+ a year and watch him become a 60pt guy here because we don't have Stamkos, Kucherov, Hedman, Johnson, etc.

If Point is a 60 point guy on the Rangers then Kakko probably scores 40 on his peak.

 

[TGWL]

I love when players get paid and they're no longer worth having over ELC players who haven't played a game yet. While this doesn't make sense for Rangers, obvious reasons, that doesn't mean Kakko should be worth more than Point for Tampa.

 

[One Winged Angel]

If Point is a 60 point guy on the Rangers then Kakko probably scores 40 on his peak.

Because that’s logical?