Brassard vs Matt Carle vs Weber

[CRAZY_FAN]

If you are in a pool and you are about to use a pick on one of those guys, who would you want based on offensive potential only. Keep in mind that D and forward are two distinct position that needs to be filled, I cannot only dress forwards, I need 12 forwards and 6 D.

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[Squeaky]

I'd go with the forward, if you're talking purely points and such.

 

[Talent Analyst]

Brassard for me .

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

I'd go with the forward, if you're talking purely points and such.

Well in my case d-man are important also. I know they make less points but it's like comparing Niedermayer to Briere, I know Briere does more points, but Niedermayer would be the obvious choice here. Basically if lets say Carle become a 50 pts D-man is value would be comparable to a 80 pts forward in my case.

 

[Stealth JD]

so .... you're asking who will be the better pro?

I'd say Shea Weber.

 

[Dominator13]

what kind of thread is this, a forward vs 2 defensmen?

 

[Yosemite Sam]

what kind of thread is this, a forward vs 2 defensmen?

Never been in a hockey pool?

Depends on the format of your pool, I guess. How many D do you dress/pick and how many forwards?

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

Never been in a hockey pool?

Depends on the format of your pool, I guess. How many D do you dress/pick and how many forwards?

12 forwards and 6 D. I have no obvious need so I want the BPA. Only points counts. Maybe this thread should be move to the Fantasy thread.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

what kind of thread is this, a forward vs 2 defensmen?

I see thread like this one all the time , when people make a top 50 do they seperate D and Forward

 

[Heat McManus]

well based on offensive potential you would think the foward would win out. Espescially one with such highly touted skills.

 

[phillyflyer]

what a ridiculous thread

If you want to compare prospect offensive potential, please at least use same positions....

weber will be a beast

 

[Yosemite Sam]

12 forwards and 6 D. I have no obvious need so I want the BPA. Only points counts. Maybe this thread should be move to the Fantasy thread.

I'd say it's a toss-up between Weber and Brassard. The one good thing about Weber is that he's going to be in a good position to learn from some very good offensive D this year. Bad thing is that he's stuck behind them.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

If you want to compare prospect offensive potential, please at least use same positions....

weber will be a beast

Ok so if I follow your great advise I will never compare Niedremayer or Lidstrom to a Forsberg or Jagr, thats really helpful if your in a pool...
Just ignore the thread if you think its so hard.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

I'd say it's a toss-up between Weber and Brassard. The one good thing about Weber is that he's going to be in a good position to learn from some very good offensive D this year. Bad thing is that he's stuck behind them.

Thanks, I was leaning toward Brassard but everything I read on Carle seems to say he will be a great offensive D...How many points can we expect from them at their peak?

 

[NashisCash]

I don't know what these guys are telling you, but if 50 points is going to make a dman more important than an 80 point forward in your league, I would say you have to take Carle.

Carle has a very good chance of hitting 40 points this year, and could hit 60 + in the next few years. Brassard is at least 1-2 years away from the NHL. Carle, and it's a no brainer.

 

[Transported Upstater]

I don't know what these guys are telling you, but if 50 points is going to make a dman more important than an 80 point forward in your league, I would say you have to take Carle.

Carle has a very good chance of hitting 40 points this year, and could hit 60 + in the next few years. Brassard is at least 1-2 years away from the NHL. Carle, and it's a no brainer.

The voice of reason. NashisCash is dead-on.

12 forwards and 6 defensemen? Sounds more like a defenseman-based league, where the blueliners have a lot of fantasy value. Carle may not be as good a player as Weber, but he's a great bet to make an offensive impact from the blueline in the NHL, and relatively soon.

Carle in this situation. No-brainer.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

I don't know what these guys are telling you, but if 50 points is going to make a dman more important than an 80 point forward in your league, I would say you have to take Carle.

Carle has a very good chance of hitting 40 points this year, and could hit 60 + in the next few years. Brassard is at least 1-2 years away from the NHL. Carle, and it's a no brainer.

Exactly, if Carle projection stats are close to 60+ points then is value would be really big in my pool. I have Pitkanen and I would not trade him away for a 80 points forward.

 

[pooler99]

I don't know what these guys are telling you, but if 50 points is going to make a dman more important than an 80 point forward in your league, I would say you have to take Carle.

Carle has a very good chance of hitting 40 points this year, and could hit 60 + in the next few years. Brassard is at least 1-2 years away from the NHL. Carle, and it's a no brainer.

same here you'll skyrocket his stock

 

[Transported Upstater]

Exactly, if Carle projection stats are close to 60+ points then is value would be really big in my pool. I have Pitkanen and I would not trade him away for a 80 points forward.

Holy crap, Pitkanen in your league is ridiculously valuable...

If this is a keeper league, Pitkanen is a player you trade for almost no one under this format.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

Holy crap, Pitkanen in your league is ridiculously valuable...

If this is a keeper league, Pitkanen is a player you trade for almost no one under this format.

The best D can compare to the best forward. Let's say you have Lidstrom in your team he gives you the same kind of production of a Jagr, Thornton. Pitkanen would be close to Eric Staal, Kovalchuk I would say...And you are right since it is a keeper league a guy like Pitkanen is even harder to trade considering is age.

 

[Transported Upstater]

The best D can compare to the best forward. Let's say you have Lidstrom in your team he gives you the same kind of production of a Jagr, Thornton. Pitkanen would be close to Eric Staal, Kovalchuk I would say...And you are right since it is a keeper league a guy like Pitkanen is even harder to trade considering is age.

Trust me, man...don't trade Pitkanen unless you get an offer that BLOWS YOU AWAY, maybe by a Flyers homer in your league or something.

Sounds like you have a good handle on your situation, so good luck, my friend.

 

[Defense_1st]

I am also in a keeper pool where you need 6 d men and 12 fwds.....i have 8 d men that i have been building on I would definetley take the D man over Brassard , especially if it is Weber or Carle.Both are great young D men and will play right away.More reliable probably Weber better upside right away most likely Carle.
I would take Carle....and check out my name!

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

Thanks for your help guys, really appreciated. I will go with Carle.

 

[icandobetter]

definately Carle, I watched him played all his NHL games and the kid is quick learner with wicked shot..

 

[Blades of Glory]

I'd pick Carle just for the fact that he'll get a lot of PP time on a PP that includes Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, and Jonathan Cheechoo (though on two diff. lines).