Brando
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Where would you rank Conor Timmins ?
53. I do like him a lot.
Where would you rank Conor Timmins ?
Well Vilardi is a better prospect than Rasmussen...
No ones bashing him. Some just don’t have him in their top 50. There’s a lot of good prospects out there.That still doesn't excuse not ranking Ras at all.
He may be the most unjustly bashed prospect on HFBoards currently.
Kinda just reveals you know very little about both Rasmussen and the Wings.That's the Wings' top 6 though.
Kinda just reveals you know very little about both Rasmussen and the Wings.
How is Brannstrom 9 slots above Liljegren? Liljegren was not only ranked higher pre-draft, but had a better D+1
He would have probably made the NHL out of the draft on quite a few other teams. Wings lack elite talent but their forward depth is solid.Kinda reveals you know very little about other team's prospects. The Wing's are garbage, he would not be a top 6 forward this year on 95% of teams.
He would have probably made the NHL out of the draft on quite a few other teams. Wings lack elite talent but their forward depth is solid.
Anyway it's kinda of a premature statement and shows your bias against him. I'm sure you have no trouble seeing 5'8'' Yamamoto who had a worse season in juniors as a top 6 forward in the NHL, even though players that small being legit top 6-ers is exceedingly rare.
Terrible list.
Just using McKenzie's pre-draft rankings. Which is pretty unanimous as a great list for an unbias average consensus of prospects has the order and ranks of this year's prospects so vastly different than yours it's disgusting.
Team bias grabbing players off the board should not factor into a real list.
Neither should team bias who very obviously drafted purely on position factor into a real list.
You want a list. Start with McKenzie for this year's prospects and rank post draft prospects based on performance around that list.
If he didn't, he'd barely be a prospect to begin with at that size. Rasmussen can just shield the puck with his body and reach in situations where a player of Yamamoto's stature has to dangle and constantly move to maintain possession, it may look flashier but it's not necessarily more effective in the long run.Yamamoto has way more dynamic skill than Rasmussen.
He would have probably made the NHL out of the draft on quite a few other teams. Wings lack elite talent but their forward depth is solid.
Anyway it's kinda of a premature statement and shows your bias against him. I'm sure you have no trouble seeing 5'8'' Yamamoto who had a worse season in juniors as a top 6 forward in the NHL, even though players that small being legit top 6-ers is exceedingly rare.
If he didn't, he'd barely be a prospect to begin with at that size. And it feels like a myth that big guys dominate juniors because of their size. In fact tons of tiny players dominate juniors and fail to translate it to the bigger, faster NHL. Big guys often peak later as they take some time to grow into their bodies.
1.45PPG is better than 1.51PPG?Yammo had a better season than Rasmussen
Again, a 5'8'' hockey player without dynamic skill doesn't even become an NHL prospect. The question with a player that small is whether he has some of the most dynamic skill ever seen in a hockey player, because if he doesn't it's unlikely he will become a regular top 6 NHLer.Strange how if you take away the dynamic skill of a player they become a lot worse.
1.45PPG is better than 1.51PPG?
Yamamoto had lower PPG and GPG than in his draft year.
Again, a 5'8'' hockey player without dynamic skill doesn't even become an NHL prospect. The question with a player that small is whether he has some of the most dynamic skill ever seen in a hockey player, because if he doesn't it's unlikely he will become a regular top 6 NHLer.
5'8'' NHLers aren't exactly common these days either and will never be. And those scouts took Rasmussen in the top 10 while Yamamoto was #22.Yes that was the case 10 years ago but not anymore. And you realize there is more to scouting than points per game, right? Why do teams even have scouting departments when you can just open up hockeydb?
Im wondering where Hague would slot in your list?
Yes, I agree with that. I have him in the 40s, but the difference is so small after 25ish.He looks really good. He would probably be in my 70s but his D+1 was really impressive. From 30-100 the players are pretty much the same or the difference is nominal.
Terrible list.
Just using McKenzie's pre-draft rankings. Which is pretty unanimous as a great list for an unbias average consensus of prospects has the order and ranks of this year's prospects so vastly different than yours it's disgusting.
Team bias grabbing players off the board should not factor into a real list.
Neither should team bias who very obviously drafted purely on position factor into a real list.
You want a list. Start with McKenzie for this year's prospects and rank post draft prospects based on performance around that list.
What are you talking about? What a strange comment.
either take goalies out of it or rate them where they should be as prospects. youre telling me at this point where they are today an nhl team should draft nick merkley 20 spots ahead of carter hart and even further ahead of samsonov and other top goalie prospects? sure its opinion and most ppl dont like rating goalie prospects. personally i think thats a bit foolish because any prospect can boom or bust and at this point id take carter hart and ilya samsonov pretty damn high. no way one of them would be traded one on one for most of these guys out of the top 20. but of course we've seen some pretty bad trades before involving young players and draft picks, so who knows.
edit: dont mind the exaggerated numbers, but you get what i mean. also i would be more cautious during the actual draft year but when ranking top hockey prospects overall i wouldnt be afraid to rank goalies higher. maybe youre not either and you really feel thats where he belongs and that none of the other goalies have more value to a team than your top 50 skaters.