Player Discussion Brandon Carlo II

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Carlo seems to me to be a mild- mannered kid to start with and nasty is not his style. Add on to that the intimidation factor of being a young defenseman in a league that still has some rough characters and I think he gets a pass while he's finding his way. He did start to get a little more aggressive last season, not because he never cared (I don't buy that for a second) but because he is starting to feel comfortable in the league and where he fits in it.
 

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Carlo seems to me to be a mild- mannered kid to start with and nasty is not his style. Add on to that the intimidation factor of being a young defenseman in a league that still has some rough characters and I think he gets a pass while he's finding his way. He did start to get a little more aggressive last season, not because he never cared (I don't buy that for a second) but because he is starting to feel comfortable in the league and where he fits in it.


Carlo played so much better when he brought physicality into his game, I hope it continues as he matures and grows . People tend to forget he's still only 21 and is still growing into his body and with that he will continue to get stronger and more confident.
 

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Carlo played so much better when he brought physicality into his game, I hope it continues as he matures and grows . People tend to forget he's still only 21 and is still growing into his body and with that he will continue to get stronger and more confident.
Ok, this is a good point and one that I tend to forget. He is only 21, I have chunks of undigested red meat in my colon thats older than that.
He needs to hit while not being out of position to do it. I really want to see a mean streak.
 
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I think with the recent weight gain and he is adding man muscle will see a meaner player. Added to that I am sure the staff let him know he needs to ramp it up. He is starting his 3rd year and after Sid and Ovie giving him cheap shots the respect thing is over for him. He is not Hamilton, I am positive he continues where he left off and elevates.
 

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I was impressed to see him add some of that physicality to his game toward the end of the season. It certainly did coincide with an improvement in his overall game.

I kind of thought he was one of those guys that just doesn’t have that in him. Fans waste a lot of time getting angry at guys, especially big guys, who aren’t physical.

It shows how coachable he is as well. It seems that he forced the approach upon himself after being told by the coaches and management to add that element.

Looking forward to watching this guy continue to develop. He has a lot of the necessary tools and a very mature mindset.
 

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Never been a fan of these lines...So because he's not in there mucking it up, that correlates to him not caring? It was great to see him play with some physicality and aggression, but I don't see how that means he started to care.
Well, lets say he wasn't interested. Is that better? Did you not notice him getting engaged when players were crashing Rask? and getting in the Bruins faces? He was basically on the outskirt looking at it all happen. You have to get in there and get your hands dirty in those situations, if that involves getting a facewash or two, so be it.
 

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Well, lets say he wasn't interested. Is that better? Did you not notice him getting engaged when players were crashing Rask? and getting in the Bruins faces? He was basically on the outskirt looking at it all happen. You have to get in there and get your hands dirty in those situations, if that involves getting a facewash or two, so be it.
What 19/20 year old defenseman play like that in their first two years in the league?

He wasn’t interested? Such a dumb take for a guy that makes the NHL at what, 19? It’s not like he was handed the spot either. Man if he ever gets interested in hockey we’ll have another Norris caliber defenseman on the team.
 

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What 19/20 year old defenseman play like that in their first two years in the league?

He wasn’t interested? Such a dumb take for a guy that makes the NHL at what, 19? It’s not like he was handed the spot either. Man if he ever gets interested in hockey we’ll have another Norris caliber defenseman on the team.
It's clear he was playing his best hockey when he was physically engaged. I don't think it's a dumb take to note that he seemed like he wasn't interested when a scrum broke out in front of Rask. I think it was clear as day to see that...
 

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It's clear he was playing his best hockey when he was physically engaged. I don't think it's a dumb take to note that he seemed like he wasn't interested when a scrum broke out in front of Rask. I think it was clear as day to see that...
I agree, he was best when physically engaged. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t interested before. He was a kid playing against men for the first time who were much stronger than he was. It’s not a stretch to say he was intimidated. Not many defenseman break into the league at that age, let alone play a physical game.

It’s not like one day he woke up last season and said you know what, I’m interested now.
 
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https://thehockeywriters.com/brandon-carlo-the-next-ones-nhl-2015-draft-prospect-profile/

An absolute monster out on the ice and skates extremely well for his size…a good powerful skating stride and displays good lateral mobility…a mean, nasty, physical player… looks to jump up into the rush and push the offensive pace…possesses a hard shot and does a good job getting himself into shooting positions…good offensive instincts to go with his skating and snarl…ability to make some big body checks…a big minute muncher who plays both sides of the puck…physically he is almost NHL ready. (December 2014)”

Read Carlo’s scouting report. He was always physical but scrawny, I don’t think he lost interest or didn’t care his first two seasons as a pro, he was still scrawny.
 

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I just don't see a "mean, nasty, physical player" in him. He shows it every now and then, but yeah. I'm not really sure I agree with that part of the scouting report. It also says he possesses a hard shot, which simply isn't true. He has an awful shot.

Obviously he's young and will improve, and i liked what i saw from game 60 on last year.
 

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I just don't see a "mean, nasty, physical player" in him. He shows it every now and then, but yeah. I'm not really sure I agree with that part of the scouting report. It also says he possesses a hard shot, which simply isn't true. He has an awful shot.

Obviously he's young and will improve, and i liked what i saw from game 60 on last year.

That's fine, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care or isn't interested or whatever. Not every player needs to be mean/nasty or physical. Yes, it would be nice to see him develop that but if he doesn't, it is what it is. Now, I'd rather see him work on and develop some offense over mean/nasty. His transition game is great, and he's an excellent skater. He's not consistent with his defense, but he's shown glimpses of being shutdown quality.
 

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I just don't see a "mean, nasty, physical player" in him. He shows it every now and then, but yeah. I'm not really sure I agree with that part of the scouting report. It also says he possesses a hard shot, which simply isn't true. He has an awful shot.

Obviously he's young and will improve, and i liked what i saw from game 60 on last year.
Well to be fair they probably watched him play.

I think Carlo is going to turn some heads this year. Expecting a player to be a finished product at 20 is crazy, that’s Mcavoy syndrome. Give him time to grow into the league and his frame.
 

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I just don't see a "mean, nasty, physical player" in him. He shows it every now and then, but yeah. I'm not really sure I agree with that part of the scouting report. It also says he possesses a hard shot, which simply isn't true. He has an awful shot.

Obviously he's young and will improve, and i liked what i saw from game 60 on last year.

Hal Gill 2.0
 

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I mean, besides the fact that they're nothing alike.... Sure. If Carlo plays 1100+ career NHL games, that would be awesome.
Actually they’re both tall so that means they’re exactly alike.

In Carlo’s rookie year he had almost as many points as Gill’s best. Gill didn’t even play an NHL game until 22. But yeah, Carlo = Hal Gill.
 

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Well to be fair they probably watched him play.

I think Carlo is going to turn some heads this year. Expecting a player to be a finished product at 20 is crazy, that’s Mcavoy syndrome. Give him time to grow into the league and his frame.
You're right, what the f*** do I know.
 

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How much did you watch Carlo play before he turned pro?
Probably more than you think. I'm not saying I'm an expert on him, but I did see him play before going to Providence.

He's absolutely never had a "Hard Shot" and from what I saw he never really played with an edge consistently.
 

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Probably more than you think. I'm not saying I'm an expert on him, but I did see him play before going to Providence.

He's absolutely never had a "Hard Shot" and from what I saw he never really played with an edge consistently.
I believe you watched him, but every scouting report I’ve read says he had a hard shot and an intimidation factor.

The Draft Analyst | Draft Profile: RHD Brandon Carlo
 

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I believe you watched him, but every scouting report I’ve read says he had a hard shot and an intimidation factor.

The Draft Analyst | Draft Profile: RHD Brandon Carlo
I haven't watched THAT much of him, when he was younger he played some games the way he did in Boston (a bit mean, a bit gritty) and some games he would coast, mind you, sometimes those games don't really have much fire in them to begin with. I can see how he could be mean at times, but i wouldn't consider it really a part of his game. I'll always disagree on his shot though, maybe it seemed harder because he was a big boy against smaller guys, but his shot as it is in the NHL is not hard, actually, far from it. I would say outside of McQuaid he has probably the worst shot on the Bruins, but he can improve in that aspect.
 
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