Brady Tkachuk vs 2019 #4 Overall Pick
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Tkachuk. It was a bad trade, but Ottawa made the right choice in keeping that pick. You really can't go into any season expecting to finish bottom 3. Not only is the lottery unpredictable, but we've seen teams have better seasons than expected recently (Islanders, Vegas last year). It was worth the gamble.
Depends on who is picked #4?
If Turcotte's available I'd rather have #4.
If Turcotte's available I'd rather have #4.
You wouldn't be saying this if Avalanche picked #1 or #2. You can't evaluate decisions via hindsight.
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Logically Tkachuk because he is proven. This question can only be answer until a few years pass
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I'd personally rather Tkachuk but either way we got absolutely shit on in the trade so not really a W
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Dion TheFluff
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The ultimate outcome doesn't affect the evaluation of the decision.
Well, at least with something like this, where it's just luck-based. Obviously it's different with scouting etc.
Let's say for example, that if Senators did give away the pick, they'd have won this year's lottery. You don't know whether that would happen or not.
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Well, without using hindsight, even if the Sens were guaranteed to finish last (they werent), this was still the most likely outcome by a large margin. Before the first puck was dropped this season, it was overwhelmingly likely that the pick would be 4th or lower. The chances that it would be top 3 got higher as the season went on but they has never been a single second where the pick was more likely to be 3rd or higher than the likelihood that it would be 4th or lower.
So, in short, your reasoning is flawed on at least as many levels as theirs
51% chance of picking 4th
35% chance of picking 1/2.
Ottawa having the best odds is hindsight too. They made the right call by game theory.
Tkachuk pretty easily
And yes, Ottawa made the right call. Even if the Sens finished at the bottom of the standings (which they did), there was a better chance the pick would be #4 than #1, #2 or #3.
And yes, Ottawa made the right call. Even if the Sens finished at the bottom of the standings (which they did), there was a better chance the pick would be #4 than #1, #2 or #3.
Ottawa having the best odds is hindsight in a way, but them finishing last was called by numerous people, myself included. Looks like you're not interested in EV evaluation then.
I mean first of all congrats to Colorado getting the 4OV pick, Bowers and Girard for a year a 1/2 of Matt Duchene. Regardless of the result, Colorado will get an incredible return.
That aside, there's no doubt that Tkachuk was the choice to make over this years' pick. Props to Dorion on this one, almost everyone criticized this pick, myself included. Tkachuk is not a top line C, or a #1 D, but he is a franchise changing player in his own way. The way he plays he makes every shift count and as a fan you just cannot get enough of these guys, they are a very rare commodity in this league. Ottawa needed this DESPERATELY after the Karlsson deal, and subsequently the Stone and Duchene deals.
That aside, there's no doubt that Tkachuk was the choice to make over this years' pick. Props to Dorion on this one, almost everyone criticized this pick, myself included. Tkachuk is not a top line C, or a #1 D, but he is a franchise changing player in his own way. The way he plays he makes every shift count and as a fan you just cannot get enough of these guys, they are a very rare commodity in this league. Ottawa needed this DESPERATELY after the Karlsson deal, and subsequently the Stone and Duchene deals.
It's a coin flip. For the Leafs, I'd rather have Tkachuk, because he would solve an immediate need (a skilled and gritty LWer, who can slot anywhere in the top 9). Now, everything else is situational based. In a full rebuild, you may prefer the franchise center upside of Turcotte or Dach.
This is what Sens fans tried explaining to other fans (specifically Avs fans) all season, but to them they had the unlikely scenario of Hughes to Colorado.
In isolation it's more advantageous to take the earlier pick at the same position. Everyone wants results sooner than later. Ottawa did nothing wrong taking the option earlier, they were just complete idiots to have traded it away in the first place.
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I personally rate both Byram and Turcotte higher than Brady, so I'm happy they kept him in that sense. What hurts, is that the Avs need impact players asap, and both of those kids probably won't play in the bigs until 20/21 at best.
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The odds were against picking #1 or #2 even assuming they finish last, which itself wasn't a guarantee back then regardless of how bad the situation looked like, especially considering they still had EK at the time. Granted, those odds ended up being more than decent for a top 2 pick but the right call was made, both at the time and in hindsight.
I'd rather have both, but I've grown fond of Brady over the season, so I'd rather take him over this year's 4th.
The kids available at 4th are going to be great prospects, and they probably have higher upside, skills wise, than Brady, but I don't see anyone with the combination of talent, skill and intangibles that Brady has.
The kids available at 4th are going to be great prospects, and they probably have higher upside, skills wise, than Brady, but I don't see anyone with the combination of talent, skill and intangibles that Brady has.
cgf
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Doesn't matter, we need the help now not in a few years.
I could sue you for the whiplash from putting these sentences back-to-back.
