Brady Tkachuk is on pace for one of the greatest season in analytics history

[McShogun99]

Good ok analytic’s. Where Nichuskin is better than Draisaitl and B.Tkachuk is one of the greatest players of all time....

 

[42]

To explain better, in order of importace it's:

1. Shot Distance From Net
2. Time Since Last Game Event
3. Shot Type (Slap, Wrist, Backhand, etc)
4. Speed From Previous Event
5. Shot Angle
6. East-West Location on Ice of Last Event Before the Shot
7. If Rebound, difference in shot angle divided by time since last shot
8. Last Event That Happened Before the Shot (Faceoff, Hit, etc)
9. Other team’s # of skaters on ice
10. East-West Location on Ice of Shot
11. Man Advantage Situation
12. Time since current Powerplay started
13. Distance From Previous Event
14. North-South Location on Ice of Shot
15. Shooting on Empty Net

You forgot about the current phase of the Moon.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

People being proud of not understanding advanced stats and/or dismissing them without understanding them is anti-intellectualism. Plenty of that in this thread.

People ripping on advanced stats on a hockey forum is not anti-intellectualism. We're not talking about rejecting the theory of evolution here.

 

[hoglund]

The guy is averaging 1.84 xGoals/60... that's insane, no one this season is even close. Matthews is a distant 2nd at 1.37/60. Tkachuk is on pace to break Ovechkin's record of the best stats in this metric at 1.81 in the 08-09 season.

Esp impressive that he's doing it on such a bad team where just getting the puck to the areas that give you good expected goals is a herculean task in itself, let alone getting those shots off.

Analytics history, who cares, real stats are what's important.

 

[FeatherHead]

I've got enough problems

99 problems and his face ain’t 1.

 

[FeatherHead]

Analytics history, who cares, real stats are what's important.

But...but...muh Captain.

 

[hoglund]

But...but...muh Captain.

What?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Thats pretty impressive. The nly thing I'll note is somone was explaining this weekend that xGoals/60 dos not take into account schooter skill. So it counts a Jimmy Vesey (lol) shot the same as an Auston Matthews shot.


Expected Goals (xG) Models Explained

As you can see, none of the factors include the player. That said it's the best we have for now, but I do look forward to the day the player quality is added to this list.

Which is exactly the issue with the often used stats. Assuming every shot is taken by the "average" player doesn't result in an accurate measurement because shooter skill *does* have a massive, massive impact on whether a shot should be "expected" to go in or not.

Until that is actually accounted for in a much more clear way than currently, it's hard to look at these stats as more than just secondary or tertiary data instead of any sort of primary data when evaluating players/teams.

 

[authentic]

Sens fan here, just shows how meaningless some of these advanced stats are. Solid player but he isn't dominating games by any stretch of the imagination.

This can be boiled down to him shooting the puck a lot. Good player no doubt though.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Would never have guessed that considering we (Sens fans) watch him and he hasn't been at his best; he's picking up steam as of late though.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Baby Tkachuk.

 

[Bedards Dad]

Which is exactly the issue with the often used stats. Assuming every shot is taken by the "average" player doesn't result in an accurate measurement because shooter skill *does* have a massive, massive impact on whether a shot should be "expected" to go in or not.

Until that is actually accounted for in a much more clear way than currently, it's hard to look at these stats as more than just secondary or tertiary data instead of any sort of primary data when evaluating players/teams.

They are all just another tool in the box. None of them should be used on their own.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

"On pace" ?

"Analytics" (aka The Emperor New Clothes) ?

Seriously ?

 

[Adrianopolous]

This kid is a beauty

 

[FeatherHead]

What?

Toews has been known as Captain Intangible. They’ve used that analytics BS to justify his modest stats for a decade.

 

[Paul4587]

Brady Tkachuk is also one of the best fantasy players on the planet. And that’s the most important thing, he’s the MVP of my 20-21 fantasy team.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

He was godlike tonight. gave Price PTSD - Post Tkachuk Stress Disorder

 

[foggyvisor]

Tkachuk promised Stützle he was gonna pound someone in retribution for a cheap shot Stützle took last game, so:

 

[Emerica]

Tkachuk promised Stützle he was gonna pound someone in retribution for a cheap shot Stützle took last game, so:

Timmy got shootas

 

[starling]

Analytics, aside, Brady leads the league in Shots on Goal, Hits and Penalties Drawn. What a legend.

 

[Ol' Jase]

Was skeptical of the claim until I read "in analytics history"

This is a highly, highly underrated post...

but, the again, I guess it’s just like Brady Tkachuk...

 

[JT Kreider]

If I was a Habs fan I would lose sleep over taking KK over Brady

 

[SensFactor]

Brady is a beast.

 

[Shaman464]

There's nothing going on in the Canadian division that should be taken seriously.

 

[swiftwin]

Analytics, aside, Brady leads the league in Shots on Goal, Hits and Penalties Drawn. What a legend.

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