Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Prucha73, Jun 11, 2004.
How do they compare? Who do you think is better?
Barker is a similar player, but Bouwmeester is simply superior in almost all facets.
Yeah Boowmeester, but not by much. He skates a little smoother, he carries the puck a little better, he's a little bigger and shoots a little faster.
I think Bouwmeester is gonna follow in the foot steps of Ed Jovanovski as he was touted to be a great defenseman in the draft, did not make any serious impact and pan out when he changes sceneries
Oh pleeaasseeeee.... The only common point both have is that they were picked by Florida. Defensemen always take time to develop and Bouwmeester is already ahead of is time, playing 23 minutes per game.
Bouwmeester >>>>>> Barker
Barker is really, really underrated on these boards. I say Bouwmeester, but by a small margin.
Have you seen him play?
I really need to find someone here whos seen him play in more than 5 games, because I'd like to see how he stacks up to Komisarek, J-Bo, Ryan Whitney, Pitkanen, Suter or Coburn.
I read a post from a Medicine Hat season ticket holder a while back who said that they shouldn't even be compared and that (even though some think he is underrated), he thought that Barker was overrated.
Thats what Im saying...it bugs me that people are quick write off Klesla (not in this thread but on the board in general).
i saw barker 3 times this year and i saw too much brisebois in him!!!
good offensive skills(play it very safely) has the size but dont use it enough, can have some braincramps defensively and good shot from the point but not great !
I would take J-Bo, Ryan Whitney, Pitkanen and probably Komisarek well before Barker....Suter and Coburn would be about on the same level as Barker, IMO.
i'd put j-bo, whitney, pitkanen and suter well above barker...and i think coburn and komisarek are substantially below, actually. i think barker is a solid prospect...but...i think if he were in last year's draft, suter and phaneuf would still have been picked before him. coburn is a toss up.
Jay Bouwmeester was one of the best players I have seen play in the WHL in a long, long time. He was practically a fourth forward during most games. Barker is no way near as good as Jay-Bo offensively. However, I believe the only part of his game that is better is that he uses his size more. But in no way, is Barker a better prospect than Bouwmeester was, nor will he turn out to be a better NHLer.
J-Bo will go in the footsteps of Ed Jovanovski !
This thread is driving me crazy! I own Barkers rights in my fantasy pool. I've only seen him play on TV in the Memorial Cup so I rely on alot of these forums to gauge what type of player he is and will be. Half of everything I read says he's awesome and the other half say he's very overated!?!
Having said that....if you owned his rights, would you try & trade him OR hold onto him because he'll develop into a top 4 (possible top 2) defencemen.
I have seen 4 games from him this year.
He will become a 1st defenseman. A star in the league. I'd keep him that's for sure.
making guarantees like that in this day and age is pretty foolish, though. there aren't many 'can't-miss' prospects. look back at the first round of pretty much any draft, and you'll find many guys that never played a game in the NHL.
Man, Phaneuf is getting no respect in this thread. IMO, he is probably the 3rd or 4th best dman out of the past 3 drafts.
JayBo was one of the best prospect defensemen of all-time. Players/defensemen of Barker calibre are available every year.
I hate that. Read the thread. He didn't ask for a list of the best defensive prospects so don't get upset. He asked how Barker compares to a SPECIFIC list of prospects so he can get a rough idea of how good he is. Calm down.
So just how good is Barker? Is he a sure thing future #1 defenseman in NHL? Is he great defensively? Is he very mean and physical? Does he have great speed and quickness?
I'm a little confused here. Many, many posts suggest the idea of trading up to get this guy, yet before he's played 1 NHL game so many are saying he's not that good/not gonna make it. All I know is, he's rated the #1 D-guy in this year's draft, no question. Pretty difficult to rate him against current NHL'ers & prospects 2-3 yrs older, don't ya think?
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