Confirmed with Link: Boucher: to return or not to return, that is the question

[BondraTime]

I think Trent Mann will get the Belleville gig.

You mean his brother, Troy?

Yes it's likely

 

[OttawaSenators11]

You guys talk like there's a lineup of highly qualified coaches who are beating down our doors to take that job. No one wants to coach/work/play in Ottawa. Face the facts.

People would come if we paid them, that's the issue.
We'd overpay but that's okay if they were to best people for the job.

 

[Tragedy]

GM is our biggest issue tbh

I don't think we can make that judgement without considering how tight the purse strings are. I'm curious if Boucher would be back if we had the financial backing of a team like Toronto.

 

[BatherSeason]

Probably on a short leash though. If we get off to a bad start, he likely won’t stay on.

This shouldn't make anyone feel better. The whole concept of "short leash" is a joke, it just cripples the team right from the beginning of the season. Either bring him back for the whole year or don't being him back at all. Firing him midseason to just hand the gig to Crawford is just setting Crawford up to fail from the outset.

At least in Habs Land they recognized that their coaching staff needed some change and they did hit. Here, Melnyk just doesn't want to pay any new staff, so they don't.

Say bye to Karlsson. Duchene and Stone should just follow suit as well, this organization is going nowhere with Dorion/Melnyk running things.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

You mean his brother, Troy?

Yes it's likely

That's cool but lets hope none of these guys get the Ottawa gig once Dorion uses one of his life lines. Need to get a big name coach for once.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

You guys talk like there's a lineup of highly qualified coaches who are beating down our doors to take that job. No one wants to coach/work/play in Ottawa. Face the facts.

Plenty of qualified coaches in the AHL and college ranks that have put in the time and developed young players that are looking for a coaching opportunity.

 

[BatherSeason]

You guys talk like there's a lineup of highly qualified coaches who are beating down our doors to take that job. No one wants to coach/work/play in Ottawa. Face the facts.

Moving Marc Crawford into the head coaching role was an option. Unfortunately that would have meant potentially hiring a new assistant coach and that would have costed $$

 

[TheBradyBunch]

I think Trent Mann will get the Belleville gig.

Trent or Troy?

Trent currently works for us as Chief Amateur Scout; Troy (his brother) was head coach of Hershey for the past 4 years, head coach of their ECHL affiliate the year before, and an assistant in Hershey for the 4 years before.

Troy could definitely be a good option.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I don't think we can make that judgement without considering how tight the purse strings are. I'm curious if Boucher would be back if we had the financial backing of a team like Toronto.

The fact the purse strings are so tight and Dorion decides to blow a significant portion of his budget on guys like Burrows, Smith, Condon and Anderson does not reflect well on his managerial skills.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I am actually okay with this just because I am very curious if Boucher can turn it around. Everyone says Boucher is a one and done coach and I feel like this is the first time he gets a shot to prove people wrong.

As others have said though I am assuming the leash is short.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

I'm not even over Saturday's disappointment, and they gotta hit me with this.

Slow down, fellas. I can only process so much sadness at once.

 

[BatherSeason]

Troy could definitely be a good option.

Option is the key word. There should be options, not just one option.

Instead of searching from within again, lets go outside the box and find the best person for the job instead of immediately handing the job to someone who knows someone from within the organization. Quit running this organization like a circus please, that's really all I am hoping for now. Fed up of this garbage.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

I am actually okay with this just because I am very curious if Boucher can turn it around. Everyone says Boucher is a one and done coach and I feel like this is the first time he gets a shot to prove people wrong.

As others have said though I am assuming the leash is short.

I'm genuinely curious about this too.

I think I'm more annoyed that nothing at all is changing on the coaching front other than a press box swap. Get rid of a couple assistant, just for shits. At least pretend you care about positive change

 

[Emerica]

I hate it.

You wait until the season ending meetings to address the coaching situation only to publicly trash your HC and let him know he needs to completely overhaul the way he coaches and prove to you he deserves to stay. How do you expect him to have any sort of confidence going into a season knowing he's one losing streak away from being fired? His insecurity is going to rub off on the players and the rest of the staff. We are one losing streak away from having another interim coach, aka Crawford, which essentially means another throwaway season, another wasted year learning/tweaking a new system which isn't being kept once the interim is canned, all that without your first round pick.

We all know if Boucher has a bad start, he's getting fired. Himself, his staff, Dorion, the media, the fans. You're just delaying the process and hoping for some sort of miracle of God. Why not make the change now and at the very least try to prevent another scrapped season. Tally another check in Dorion's mistake column.

 

[topshelf15]

Boucher needs to get this team practicing and playing an attack style of offense,not chip in and grind for 60 mins.....The players wont buy into that

 

[Emerica]

I think Trent Mann will get the Belleville gig.

I read that also but was wondering if there was anything more to it than speculation he could be an option.

Edit: Troy obviously, not Trent.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

The fact the purse strings are so tight and Dorion decides to blow a significant portion of his budget on guys like Burrows, Smith, Condon and Anderson does not reflect well on his managerial skills.

You get what you pay for .... Dorion must be one if not the lowest paid GM in the league.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Option is the key word.

Instead of searching from within again, lets go outside the box and find the best person for the job instead of immediately handing the job to someone who knows someone from within the organization. Quit running this organization like a circus please, that's really all I am hoping for now. Fed up of this garbage.

Amongst people who would be interested in the job, Mann may very well be the best option.

He's been very successful with Hershey and has overseen the development of several solid pros:
- Grubauer
- Galiev
- Carrick
- Burakovsky
- Schmidt
- Vrana
- Bowey
- Stephenson
- Djoos
- Johansen (1st rounder 2016)

I'm not aware of the full scope of options but I have a feeling that people are ready to be mad simply because of his last name. His last name might be the only reason a coach of his caliber is willing to sign on with us.

 

[Sensung]

Never surprising but always disappointing.

Yup

 

[BatherSeason]

Amongst people who would be interested in the job, Mann may very well be the best option.

He's been very successful with Hershey and has overseen the development of several solid pros:
- Grubauer
- Galiev
- Carrick
- Burakovsky
- Schmidt
- Vrana
- Bowey
- Stephenson
- Djoos
- Johansen (1st rounder 2016)

I'm not aware of the full scope of options but I have a feeling that people are ready to be mad simply because of his last name. His last name might be the only reason a coach of his caliber is willing to sign on with us.

His last name is probably the only reason he would be considered. Melnyk probably thinks that Troy will come work for the organization on a discount because he gets a chance to work with his brother.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

His last name is probably the only reason he would be considered. Melnyk probably thinks that Troy will come work for the organization on a discount because he gets a chance to work with his brother...lol

See, this is the type of post that re-affirms the exact suspicion I laid out in the post you're responding to.

He might be considered. If he is, it will be at least in large part due to, I dunno, his very good track record in the exact job he's applying for.

 

[bert]

His leash will be short.

Who cares, will be too late anyways. I wont be renewing my quarter season this secures it.

 

[Joider]

I don't mind Boucher coming back, under an extremely short leash of course, but why keep his assistants?? We've been in the bottom tenth of the league for special teams during the last two seasons, so even when we were good. Why not give that group a shakeup??

 

[BatherSeason]

Who cares, will be too late anyways. I wont be renewing my quarter season this secures it.

This organization is doing a fantastic job selling "hope". Season ticket holders will continue to disappear. Gonna be a pretty empty building in October.

 

[bert]

GM is our biggest issue tbh

Second only to the owner.