Confirmed with Link: Boucher to return

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  1. solidprospect

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    Other teams figured out our system last year for various reasons. I'd argue that most teams could care less the way we played 2 years ago but this passed season everyone was talking about how we did it and teams knew what we were doing most games of 2017/2018.
     
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    I'm fine with him coming back. I think there were a lot more problems this team faced this season than coaching. Some responsibility has to be on the players for not performing. Give Boucher another year and see if he can turn things around. I think he will.
     
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    So, Methot was on tsn1200 and said he really liked playing under Boucher
     
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    Why not ... it was a change for success with the team that year.
     
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    I think it's more about a defensive dman appreciating having the forwards help out so much with the defensive side of the game, and not feeling his offensive side is being stifled (because he doesn't really have one). But, yeah, being successful would have helped.
     
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    I really believe that the players like playing for Boucher, the fact that we had a bad season reflect more on the players then the coach imo. When your franchise player has the worst season of his career and your goaltenders are AHL caliber its hard to put the blame on the coach.
     
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    There was plenty of blame to go around this year.
     
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    Not towards the coaches though... didn't you see improvements in the way they played in the Dzone.. and the way the played on the PK ... and how about the PP...More Ozone time.. we killed it in there.. our Neutral zone play was more effective right?


    me neither... excellent press conferences though... cuz they remind you how near miss they were every game
     
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    Last Season (2017-18) , the team did not get the job done. The GM failed. The coaches failed. The players failed. Who is in charge of Hockey Ops? The GM. He failed big time as he hired the coaches and is responsible for getting the players.
     
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    Boucher and Crawford cant stop the puck!!! Condon and Anderson were trash last season. Im telling you put Condon and Anderson with Nashville and they dont make the playoffs. they were that bad! hard to blame the coach when your goalies cant make a save!
     
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    No question the goal tending did not stand up, but the all elements of the game that lead to high quality scoring chances against are not on the goalies.
     
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    If Boucher is doing anything other than studying how Gallant plays his team and not writing every detail down then hes a complete fool and wont be making to next seasons end.
     
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    That's a good point, I'm sure he has and I suspect a lot of other teams must have taken notice too. It's really incredible that Vegas is 4 wins away from winning the Cup, it shows how important having a good coach and staff is.
     
  14. Do Make Say Think

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    We don't have the roster to play like Vegas does and be successful.

    I'd love to have Dzingel score 43 goals but I ain't counting on it.
     
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    What did you (and pretty much everyone else) think of this Vegas roster in September 2017?

    And maybe not Dzingle but Hoffman can score 43. I'm sure Stone could get pretty close to it too. The key thing is the good coaching and putting the right players in the right situation to succeed.
     
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    We don't have the personnel to play like Vegas. They are relentless every shift.
     
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    You don't need skills to be relentless. Just good lung power, and a willingness to bust your ass every shift.
     
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    Agreed. My point still stands. We don't have the type of players to go balls to the wall as consistently as Vegas in their first year
     
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    We definitely lack some speed up front with Stone and Bobby. But i see no reason why we still cant play a similar style.
     
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    To be honest, it all comes down to work ethic. Both on the ice and in the gym.
     
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    We will be here next year boys, turtling 10 mins in on our way to a Cup.
     
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    2017-2018 - 13 penalties
    2016-2017 - 12
    2015-2016 - 4

    I think we're trending upwards.
     
  23. Do Make Say Think

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    You need a lot of stronger skaters.

    We don't have enough of them.
     
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    I credit Gallant with doing a great job as coach; however, I credit the Vegas GM for hiring him and obtaining the players that have the talent to play this game at such a high level.

    I wish the Senators had an effective GM during the last 10 years.
     
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    And their D cores ability to close gaps and move the puck as well as anyone, its not just skating fast its playing fast. And to have a coach that believes in that style of play. Boucher literally coachs the opposite way that Vegas plays. Were going backwards, in every way imaginable in this organization.
     
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