Speculation: Boucher: to return or not to return, that is the question [Part 2]

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  1. Tranq

    Tranq Registered User

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    Panthers fan here, my question is if the management is not willing to sign and retain good players, is that the coaching staff fault? I mean you are going to be rebuilding so what expectation from the coach do you have?
     
  2. BonkTastic

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    To develop young players and put them in positions where they can learn and succeed and develop, which the current coach has historically shown a significant resistance to doing.
     
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    I want Boucher canned for different reasons, but hard to criticize the development of Chabot, Tkachuk and White under his watch. Jaros to a lesser extent. My issue has more to do with strategy, stubbornness and deployment of players like the vets on this team, and those that have been trade out
     
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    It's possible those players are developing in spite of Boucher and not because of him.

    Regardless though, to that Panthers fan, expectations were really low entering the season and somehow Boucher has failed to meet them. That's a pretty big indictment on GB.
     
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  5. Upgrayedd

    Upgrayedd Earn'em and Burn'em

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    Seeing the Ducks move had me imagining of the entertainment of a similar situation happening but instead with Eugene stepping behind the bench, putting aside the inevitable and unimaginable further damage he would assuredly cause in this fantasy land thought to both the city, team and players, and having given up on the possibility of non worse case scenarios occuring moving forward I feel that is the kind of entertainment this fanbase deserves to finish off the year...sort of like a treat for sticking with the dumpster for so long!
     
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  6. InAbsensia

    InAbsensia OMG Boro is going to be our captain isn't he?

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    I would definitely buy a few home tickets to see Melnyk coach the team. It would be so, so hilariously awesome.
     
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    Upgrayedd Earn'em and Burn'em

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    I too would break my protest and purchase tickets as close to the home bench as possible
     
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  8. Fenix Rises 2026

    Fenix Rises 2026 Alfie forever!

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    I can't excuse the horrible strategy of laying off the gas every time we have a lead. Boucher should go. Carlyle anyone?
     
  9. slamigo

    slamigo Skate or Die!

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    I want a coach that sees what we have in prospects and says “hell yeah!” The Sens need a great coach who can develop players. Not some guy struggling to stay in the league, overplaying 4th line scrubs because they’re trusted to not make mistakes.
     
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    Coach Q is the dream

    AV also

    Really need someone to set the tone of a new team building towards the playoffs. Needs to instill a winning culture in the youth
     
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    No.
     
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    Omg if Carlyle gets anywhere near this team I swear to god. Luckily we probably can't afford him.

    I'd love a respectable veteran to replace Boucher if he gets let go, but I can't really think of any out there right now (other than Q who definitely won't come here). I guess I hope we end up with an up and comer but after the last 5 coaches I'm weary of choosing anyone who's inexperienced.

    At the end of the day I'll be fine with any coach that plays the young guys and makes the games somewhat entertaining.
     
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    Who was the last bottom 6 forward this team produced?

    Give Boucher some decent players.

    I have a lot of respect for Boucher and belive he’s a good coach, and in a solid organization woh leadership, the support and the work ethic to win, he’s be a top NHL coach.
     
  14. The Lewler

    The Lewler GOAT BUDGET AINEC

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    Gotta say JG Pageau. And hes 26.
     
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    I am willing to bet that Melnyk is a huge fan of Carlyle's.
     
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    Its crazy - Boucher has lost EK, Methot and his top pairing from the ECF run, his 2 centres in Turris and Brassard. His goalie is 114 years old, and the Sens can’t even find him 12 forwards to fill out his bottom 6 and the guy gets slammed constantly.

    The players are sticking together and the enthusiasm in the drsssing room is good. All credit to Boucher
     
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    You also think Chiasson is better than Bobby Ryan.

    Youd think after 2 straight years of being the worst team in hockey that trying to re-invent the wheel and play 11-7 would make such a smart guy think that it probably doesnt work. Not Guy he aint changin. Smarter than everyone else who cares what the results say!
     
  18. Moon Walker

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    Yeah he lost players because he drove a talented team into the bottom of the standings forcing a rebuild.

    Get Boucher the **** away from the players. Who gives a **** about having fun- learn how to play at the NHL level. This guy has no clue and should have been fired in the summer.

    Shot shelf life coach. Bye bye Boucher
     
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    Terrible idea.
     
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    Guy is toast....But the real question should be is who would be next,we know EM wants it to be on the cheap...So that kinda of limits us moving forward
     
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    Best case scenario - someone is smart enough to realise with young talent we need a good coach.

    coaches are that expensive...
     
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    Yep cant see many tenured nhl coach,s lining up for this gig..
     
  23. Tuna99

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    Imagine you’re a coach and your highways paid player is your least motivated player - Boucher has done an incredible job getting Ryan’s game to a respectable level from where it was before he took over.

    He benched Ryan for a game, called him out and pushed him and is getting the best out of him.

    What Boucher is doing with Ryan is a credit to his coaching. He’s motivated a player who 78 coaches in Ottawa couldn’t even get to do his summer workouts.
     
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    I think we could be surprised to see experienced coaches entertain the possibility of working with great young talent on the rise. Bottom line though, is that EM won't pay an upper echelon coach the money they would expect. Looks like another up and comer like a Sheldon Keefe or a desperate ex-nhl coach looking for any job, anywhere just to get back in the game.
     
  25. Fenix Rises 2026

    Fenix Rises 2026 Alfie forever!

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    And here I was worried no one would watch enough ducks games to comment on Carlyle as a coach! So...of the ducks games you've seen this season (in person or on tv), what about his coaching style leads you to this definitive opinion?
     

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