Bottom-5 franchises of the 2010s

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  1. NOTENOUGHBREWER

    NOTENOUGHBREWER Registered User

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    Aves have two #1 picks on their roster. And lost the lottery twice or would have four of them. Two more bottom five finishes in Landeskug and Duchene.

    Never made the finals in that decade. Maybe one playoff series win?

    How is that not a bottom 5.
     
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    Ottawa went to game 7 of the conference finals and lost to the eventual cup winner. As bad as their situation is currently, that pretty much excludes them from this list.They also made the playoffs for half the decade.
     
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    Who would you bump off the list then?
     
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    NOTENOUGHBREWER Registered User

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    My bottom 5 are

    Buffalo
    Edmonton
    Florida
    Avesalanches

    All teams with no success.
     
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    That's because they straddle the line of the decade boundary. The 10 years from 2006-2015 they're near the top, but to start the next 10 years 2015-onward they've been in the basement. Looking at cumulative point totals of the last 4 season and excluding Vegas, Vancouver is 1 point ahead of Buffalo from worst in the league. In the 10 year period I mentioned above they were 4th best in the league.

    Detroit fits this same model as well, along with a few other teams I'm sure.
     
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    You seem to not know how to count to 5, so I'm not sure if I can take your opinions seriously. :laugh:
     
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    On the other hand, did they ever actually finish in the bottom 5 of the league once? Not sure but I don't think so. Averaged 85 points per season (not counting the strike shortened season) and only had less than 82 points once (14-15, when they finished with 71 points - that may have been a bottom 5 finish)

    Otherwise you have a team that finished with 91, 87, 86, 83 (twice) and 82 points. Hardly the dregs of the league by any stretch, in those respective seasons.
     
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    Colorado did have the worst season of all teams this decade, but after the Duchene trade, they've been hot.
    Edmonton, Buffalo, and Arizona are the obvious. Florida did have a year where they came first in their division. Carolina had been bad almost every year before this current one, so you can add them into the trio. All depends on who you want to add to those 4.
    Edmonton
    Buffalo
    Arizona
    Carolina
     
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    And going by the point totals the bottom 5 in order are Edmonton, Buffalo, Florida, Arizona, and Carolina, with an honourable mention to Colorado, Toronto, Ottawa, and New Jersey.
     
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    We sucked so much this decade that we couldn't even get the top pick to make us good until we were 9 years into it.

    Hopefully the 2020s are more kind
     
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    And won two rounds in that period including once against... Florida.
     
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    New Jersey yung saint of newark

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    The Devils and Canucks are the only teams out of all the franchises brought up in this thread to make a Final in the 2010s.
     
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    True, but when you look at the full body of work prior to this season (from 09/10 to 17/18), here are the bottom teams in total points for the 740 games played.

    EDM: 623 (1 playoff appearance)
    BUF: 660 (2 playoff appearances)
    CAR: 705 (0 playoff appearances)
    FLA: 716 (2 playoff appearances)
    COL: 717 (3 playoff appearances)
    AZ/PH: 717 (3 playoff appearances)

    Even if I include this past season, it only moves Carolina to 5th worst on the list over that stretch.

    EDM: 702
    BUF: 736
    FLA: 802
    AZ/PH: 803
    CAR: 804

    Even with this season, the Canes have the 5th worst record and the least amount of playoff appearances over the past 10 seasons.
     
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    We’re riding that recency bias momentum!

    If not for the last two years or the last two years results had occurred early in the decade, we’d show up on more lists. Outside of that we had that one 7 game playoff exit surrounded by a whole bunch of garbage.
     
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    it's certainly fair to say they're bottom 5 from a cumulative point of view, not disputing that.

    But it's the equivalent of getting C minuses and D pluses on every test, and then at the end of the semester getting a final grade of F
     
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    robertmac43 Forever 43!

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    I don't think NJ belongs anywhere on this list. They made a finals and that should automatically take them out of consideration.
     
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    Vancouver for the first half of the 2010’s were good, second half not so much.
     
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    Keep thinking the last year's fluke upset of Calgary makes up for a decade of failures.
     
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    Great argument. You listed four teams, who's the fifth?
     
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    This is the correct answer.

    7 playoff appearances combined in 45 combined seasons from 10-11 to 18-19.

    Multiple 1OA selections, even more top-3 or top-5 picks (sorry Carolina).

    More or less consistent mediocrity or downright awful, with some exceptions (18-19 Carolina, 11-12 Coyotes, 16-17 Oilers, 15-16 Panthers, 10-11 Sabres).

    Colorado wouldn't look out of place replacing Carolina on that list either, although they do have more playoff appearances (3>1). Colorado also has 3 top-5 picks.

    Carolina had sustained mediocrity while the Avs ran the gamut of excellent (13-14) to horrifyingly bad (16-17).

    Edmonton and Buffalo are the clear top-2. The order under them is less clear.

    Toronto would be in this if not for the recent string of 3 playoff appearances and B2B 100 point years. They certainly aren't too far from bottom-5 even with those.
     
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    Kessel was acquired in 2009. Komisarek was signed in 2009. Leafs didn't sign Lombardi. They acquired him from NSH with his contract, in order to get Cody Franson, in a trade that is considered a win for Toronto.

    Toronto made the playoffs in 4 of the 9 seasons in the 2010's so far.

    I'm not saying they had a great decade, but there are several teams who have had worse decades than Toronto.
     
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    Seguin and Hamilton were drafted by the Bruins in 2010 and 2011.

    Oh yes, thank god for Cody Franson for making taking that cap dump worthwhile.

    Like I said, there are worse teams in teh decades, I just think Toronto belongs close to the bottom 5. For the first part of it the management was just so bad.
     
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    Now, the 2020s if we have the same owner still...
     
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    Edmonton, Buffalo, Arizona and Florida are the easy top 4.

    5 - I can see an argument for either Carolina or Toronto. Carolina has the huge no playoff stretch and has been worse overall than Toronto. But then they have 2 playoff series wins v 0 for Toronto which is terrible. I think I would go with Carolina being #5 but I can see either one.
     
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    But the Leafs traded those picks for Kessel in 2009. It's a success for Boston that they made good picks, but the Leafs aren't involved at that point.

    That trade worked out quiet well. Franson was solid, and we traded him back to NSH for a 1st and Leipsic. That 1st was used to trade down to get the picks that got us Travis Dermott & Jeremy Bracco. So, that's actually quiet the success for taking on Lombardi's contract. Fun Fact. Toronto actually got a 4th rounder from ARI for Lombardi as well. Player didn't turn out, but the return on taking Lombardi back was really good.

    I have them around 20th, if I were to make a decade rankings I think. They definitely aren't a bottom 5 team though.

    EDM, BUF, FLA, ARI, CAR all easily had worst decades.
     

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