Sign of the times. If you ask a snarky rhetorical question and get repeatedly proven wrong... just act you are entitled to your own facts, truth is malleable, and keep repeating your question with the same arrogance.
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Sign of the times. If you ask a snarky rhetorical question and get repeatedly proven wrong... just act you are entitled to your own facts, truth is malleable, and keep repeating your question with the same arrogance.
Joe McGrath
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Over the last 2 seasons the Canes are dead last in win % when leading after 2 periods. That doesn’t even include the games where they have late 3rd period leads they piss away (Washington this year for example).
That’s the coaching issue. You have to figure out how to not let that happen on such a consistent basis. Maybe don’t go into a shell with 10 minutes left because you know you’re goaltending isn’t going to hold up.
If that long term of an issue is on the players alone then what is the coaches job? Put system in place, put the lines in a blender and then f*** off the rest of the time?
That’s the coaching issue. You have to figure out how to not let that happen on such a consistent basis. Maybe don’t go into a shell with 10 minutes left because you know you’re goaltending isn’t going to hold up.
If that long term of an issue is on the players alone then what is the coaches job? Put system in place, put the lines in a blender and then f*** off the rest of the time?
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And I don't like the big picture on BP any more than you do, and I'm confident he's gone as soon as we get a new GM. But to blame a five-goal third period on "bad coaching" just doesn't fly. I'm 100% certain he didn't use the TV timeout at 9:50 to tell the guys to spend the rest of the game chasing the puck in their own end, fail repeatedly to get the puck out at the blue line, and lose their checks in the neutral zone. And I'm a million percent sure having Justin Faulk toss the puck 20 rows deep wasn't a coaching tactic.
Everybody associated with the game last night knew the Bruins were going to come with a push. And if they didn't, the goal by Grzelcyk should have been a literal announcement of the push. At that point, it's up to the 20 guys wearing Canes sweaters to push back, to match the Bruins intensity and show that this one is over. For whatever reason, this Canes team does not have that mode. And I don't think Peters can just magically conjure it, either. We're not built to push back. We don't have the leadership. We don't have the intensity. We don't have the players to do it.
Again, I'm not saying Peters is a good coach. I want him gone as much as any of you. I want the whole thing burned to the ground. But stuff like last night is on the players. And the fact that they do it over and over again just makes that more clear to me. The coaching staff has *clearly* tried to fix this. We just don't have the players to do it, and expecting them to "figure out" something that they just don't have is absurd.
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I propose we fight to determine the root of the problem.
But not in a Bojangles parking lot. We have to do things #different now.
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This is the hurricanes. Hurricanes don't fight. We should settle our differences in some sort of sulking competition.
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"Going into a shell" was definitely not a contributing factor in last night's collapse.
Agreed. It was more like shell-shock for Canes players and fans.
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That’s just an example. My contention is that it’s the coaches job to find a way to not have his entire team wet themselves in the 3rd period more than 90% of the league. Unless trading the entire team is an option.
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To be honest, I’ve been watching this team collapse on itself for 30+ years. Maybe the only way to get them to stop is to contract the team.
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Nah, Hartford tried that already. Nothing sustainable.
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Though "Houston, we have a problem" would make a mean sales pitch.
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Well, they really should have tried for a better return than Future Considerations.
Even the roof collapsed in Hartford.
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I think the current version of the team -- post Brindy era -- was built without paying any special attention to leadership, mental toughness and hockey IQ. It's fixable, but RF clearly put no value in it. This team is built in Francis's and Peters's image, even keel, never too high, never too low. The problem is that the team -- like Francis and Peters -- don't have the ability to get fired up when it's called for. What I wouldn't give for a Toews or Messier or Brindy-like leader.
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I’ve been hesitating to mention how Whaler like that game ended up being, I can’t help it now. That literally happened in a playoff game, and the crowd looked like a standard home game against Boston. Parts of Mass can get to Hartford quicker than Boston and the tickets were way cheaper so it was always a strong Bruins fan presence, way more than even the Rangers. Ugly brawls. Y’all gotta put some boots in some asses round there.
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Had it been a playoff game, there would have been fights. I've seen fights in important games against the Bruins, not even playoff games but meaningful regular season games.
There were no fights because at this point Canes fans are too dejected to give a ****.
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Well the style of Bruins fan seems to have changed as well. The Bruins fans from my youth wore those baggy horizontal tiger striped sweat pants in Bruins colors to games, with a nasty dirty white old b’s jersey underneath the team jacket that was the same as the high school letterman jackets and hats that matched the sweatpants. They were almost all fat, drunk and with something like a mullet going on.
The ones I saw last night looked showered and wearing appropriate clothing, and were merely cheering vs dumping their beers on the heads of the people in front of them. The world has changed.
Massholes are everywhere, we have a ton of them out here on CO. I have a two buddies who have been here for over 20 years, still talk with a full accent (everyone else’s fade in time) and wear something from the Pats, B’s, Sox or Celts every single day for literally 20 years. They’re both medics, and the t shirt under the uniform is always one of the above and they often are wearing the underwear too. Good friends for over 20 years and if sports even comes up I leave the room.
The ones I saw last night looked showered and wearing appropriate clothing, and were merely cheering vs dumping their beers on the heads of the people in front of them. The world has changed.
Massholes are everywhere, we have a ton of them out here on CO. I have a two buddies who have been here for over 20 years, still talk with a full accent (everyone else’s fade in time) and wear something from the Pats, B’s, Sox or Celts every single day for literally 20 years. They’re both medics, and the t shirt under the uniform is always one of the above and they often are wearing the underwear too. Good friends for over 20 years and if sports even comes up I leave the room.
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They looked like a much dirtier and chubbier version of this guy.
Those may be my favorite commercials ever.
Those may be my favorite commercials ever.
So was ceiling the roof or was the roof the floor?Very true. That was after a UConn game though
Absolutely agreed. Whoever came up with them is a genius.
The one with the guy dating a habs fan was my favorite.
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