Friedman: Boston Possibly Interested in OEL?

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^ like a lot of business owners, Muerello (Coyotes) has been hammered by the Covid shutdowns.
 
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DeBrusk’s career points per game is 8% higher than OEL’s despite being a forward and playing for the leagues 7th best combined offense since his rookie season. Conversely, OEL has played for the leagues 29th ranked offense since he broke in.

If OEL and Jake DeBrusk traded teams, I’m sure OEL would be the bigger point producer.

Value of money and cap is at all time high right now.

DeBrusk is 22y top6 winger who’ll probably be making half the money OEL is, and Vaaks is one of the top prospects for Boston on ELC.

OEL is 29 earning 10.5M for 3 years in a row(8.25M cap hit)

I’d rather have OEL in my lineup don’t get me wrong but there’s lot of things to consider.

I’m on the mind of Hall+ Brodie to Boston.
The lack of secondary scoring from midd6 continues to kill the Bruins and they need more premiun younger talent up front
 

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Value of money and cap is at all time high right now.

DeBrusk is 22y top6 winger who’ll probably be making half the money OEL is, and Vaaks is one of the top prospects for Boston on ELC.

OEL is 29 earning 10.5M for 3 years in a row(8.25M cap hit)

I’d rather have OEL in my lineup don’t get me wrong but there’s lot of things to consider.

I’m on the mind of Hall+ Brodie to Boston
That’s all well and good. But I’m not the one saying Boston is in on OEL. That’s Marek and Friedman. And OELs trade value isn’t diminished by fans not liking it. :)
 
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That’s all well and good. But I’m not the one saying Boston is in on OEL. That’s Marek and Friedman. And OELs trade value isn’t diminished by fans not liking it. :)

I would say his value is at all time low right now, not negative but ton of teams are in trouble with budget and rumours from Ari don’t help with his value either
 

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The Bruins are in serious trouble. For starters they are a one line team. They need to build a second scoring line. Vaakanainen should replace Chara and they can probably find a cheap UFA righty defenseman. I would buyout Krejci if they can't deal him. I'd be all in on RNH if he was available.
So they are a one line team, but you would buy out the only consistent top-6 guy outside of the top line? How does that help?
 
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The Bruins need Hall more imo. He'd be a great fit for them. Having him and Krejci feast on weaker competition would do wonders for their offence.

I don't think the Bruins need OEL to fix their team either. As a Leaf fan, I would love for them to get OEL instead of Hall.
 

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OEL is a stud. I truly think he would have won a Norris had he not played for such an unpopular franchise a few years back. I still think he’s a solid top pairing guy and if traded, any team who gets him immediately becomes a lot stronger on the back end for the next 3 seasons +.
 

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Personally I think the Coyotes need to use what little trade value they have in their over 25 group to add to their under 22 group.

As for value, I’ll say it’s very easy to spot folks in these threads who’ve never paid attention to OEL’s actually on-ice play. Tons of hot takes from stat googlers.

I’d guess OEL’s value is probably a decent young roster player, a decent pick or prospect, and a contract balancer that doesn’t carry any value and isn’t too long.
With the emergence of Janik, as well as their promising young goalies, Hill and Prosvetov. Not to mention their already fairly young core coming together, I think a 2-3 year rebuild actually makes the most sense. Sell the pending UFAs this year to cut spending and recoup draft picks, maybe take on some dumps that had front loaded contracts or big bonuses paid in July. Essentially do a quick-fix retool like NYR did. Kuemper probably makes the most sense to trade due to value as well as Raanta already being paid his Bonus. It also allows for Hill to be protected. The team probably doesnt bottom out but maybe a #10 pick before the young core kicks in main hole I see is the Dcore moving forward
 

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Value of money and cap is at all time high right now.

DeBrusk is 22y top6 winger who’ll probably be making half the money OEL is, and Vaaks is one of the top prospects for Boston on ELC.

OEL is 29 earning 10.5M for 3 years in a row(8.25M cap hit)

I’d rather have OEL in my lineup don’t get me wrong but there’s lot of things to consider.

I’m on the mind of Hall+ Brodie to Boston.
The lack of secondary scoring from midd6 continues to kill the Bruins and they need more premiun younger talent up front
OEL's actual pay is not that big of a deal to the Bruins, they are one of the largest fan bases in the league and consistently generate some of the highest income per year. I can guarantee the owner will not waiver from a 2M difference in pay if he thinks it will improve his team.

You will have a very difficult time getting Brodie to sign there though. First of all Brodie is far better on the right side than left so I doubt you want to pay him 5M for 3rd pair. Secondly, at this point in his career Brodie is thinki g about his family. He has a 1 year old daughter and his wife is diagnosed with MS. Boston winters are harsh, I cant imagine he would put them through that.
 

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OEL's actual pay is not that big of a deal to the Bruins, they are one of the largest fan bases in the league and consistently generate some of the highest income per year. I can guarantee the owner will not waiver from a 2M difference in pay if he thinks it will improve his team.

You will have a very difficult time getting Brodie to sign there though. First of all Brodie is far better on the right side than left so I doubt you want to pay him 5M for 3rd pair. Secondly, at this point in his career Brodie is thinki g about his family. He has a 1 year old daughter and his wife is diagnosed with MS. Boston winters are harsh, I cant imagine he would put them through that.

The money was more for the entire league and how it affects negatively todays trade market, and you can bet Boston will think about hard adding 10M players this offseason
 

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OEL's actual pay is not that big of a deal to the Bruins, they are one of the largest fan bases in the league and consistently generate some of the highest income per year. I can guarantee the owner will not waiver from a 2M difference in pay if he thinks it will improve his team.

You will have a very difficult time getting Brodie to sign there though. First of all Brodie is far better on the right side than left so I doubt you want to pay him 5M for 3rd pair. Secondly, at this point in his career Brodie is thinki g about his family. He has a 1 year old daughter and his wife is diagnosed with MS. Boston winters are harsh, I cant imagine he would put them through that.

He is way better in the right side and I don’t think he actually makes sense for Boston

But...Boston has some of the best hospitals in the world and the winters in the city proper are not bad really.
 

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The money was more for the entire league and how it affects negatively todays trade market, and you can bet Boston will think about hard adding 10M players this offseason
As I said, if they think OEL is the right improvement for their team at q cap hit of 8.25M they wo t have an issue with his salary being 10.5 for q few years. If its any consolation, hes only owed 4M this year
 

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He is way better in the right side and I don’t think he actually makes sense for Boston

But...Boston has some of the best hospitals in the world and the winters in the city proper are not bad really.
Its not really about the Hospitals, if it were he'd take a discount to stay in Calgary since they have Canada's leading MS research facility there. I have him flying south for warm weather though, I could see LA making sense
 

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OEL's actual pay is not that big of a deal to the Bruins, they are one of the largest fan bases in the league and consistently generate some of the highest income per year. I can guarantee the owner will not waiver from a 2M difference in pay if he thinks it will improve his team.

You will have a very difficult time getting Brodie to sign there though. First of all Brodie is far better on the right side than left so I doubt you want to pay him 5M for 3rd pair. Secondly, at this point in his career Brodie is thinki g about his family. He has a 1 year old daughter and his wife is diagnosed with MS. Boston winters are harsh, I cant imagine he would put them through that.
You do not know this ownership, money is a priority first over anything else. Remember it was this ownership that pushed for a salary cap............which they self imposed for years.
 

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Krug is too small for the playoffs and yes he is offensive but a slower skater who gets physically out matched a lot. Chara is all but cooked, they may not even sign him, even though he wants to play again.

OEL is at least 6'2" and at 29 yrs old, he can fill the gap till the younger guys are ready - Urho Vaakanainen and Zboril. The other two spots on left dee will be Matt Grzelcyk and bottom guy in rookie Lauzon. Keeping John Moore as the extra vet lefty. One of those could be picked up in the Seattle draft, making room for Vaak or Zboril.

They also picked a couple College puck movers Copper Zech and Jack Ahcan, who are Krug clones. So losing those 2 guys is no big deal. It will happen anyways without them going after OEL, it may well be Taylor Hall.
Krug was our best player in last years run to the cup
 

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As I said, if they think OEL is the right improvement for their team at q cap hit of 8.25M they wo t have an issue with his salary being 10.5 for q few years. If its any consolation, hes only owed 4M this year

& as I said the market is tougher for OEL right now.
His value is at it’s lowest, whether Boston has the money or not
 

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You do not know this ownership, money is a priority first over anything else. Remember it was this ownership that pushed for a salary cap............which they self imposed for years.
I dont follow the Bruins but like I siad they wont have an issue paying a player 2.25M over his cap hit for 3 years, especially when you factor in his 4M signing bonus has already been paid this year. According to cap friendly, OEL has a cap hit of 8.25M for 7 more years that would total 57.75M, in reality OEL is actually only still owed 50M so you would be saving 7.75M when taking on his contract
 

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I dont follow the Bruins but like I siad they wont have an issue paying a player 2.25M over his cap hit for 3 years, especially when you factor in his 4M signing bonus has already been paid this year. According to cap friendly, OEL has a cap hit of 8.25M for 7 more years that would total 57.75M, in reality OEL is actually only still owed 50M so you would be saving 7.75M when taking on his contract
The Bruins could use a defense man , but it not have to be a top 1 or 2 ,someone with size and mobility would be a improvement. The money spent needs to go to the lack of scoring.......they must find a right wing that can put the puck in the net,I would be upset if they were able to obtain two wings, They need speed and size up front and a physical D- Man............a Jake Virtanen , Josh Anderson {if healthy } would be the type of forwards needed and they are also young. maybe a Brendan Dillon type on the back end. they have McAvoy,Carolo and Gryzlcyk that are cheaper and younger than OEL and that is not a knock on him .......
 

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The Bruins could use a defense man , but it not have to be a top 1 or 2 ,someone with size and mobility would be a improvement. The money spent needs to go to the lack of scoring.......they must find a right wing that can put the puck in the net,I would be upset if they were able to obtain two wings, They need speed and size up front and a physical D- Man............a Jake Virtanen , Josh Anderson {if healthy } would be the type of forwards needed and they are also young. maybe a Brendan Dillon type on the back end. they have McAvoy,Carolo and Gryzlcyk that are cheaper and younger than OEL and that is not a knock on him .......
Im not talking about what I think Boston needs, I am following the topic of the thread. If Bruins GM and management feel that OEL is the right piece then him being owed 10.5M for 3 years is not going to effect that. I would imagine some sort of cap would be going the other way in a trade too so acquiring a top 6 winger is totally doable.
 

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Just curious, why is Krug gone? Surely if you are willing to give OEL 8.25 you could give Krug that
Krug is too small. He gets run over in playoff hockey....He is a PP specialist. Not even worth 6 million.....And not the player not even close OEL is......
 

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What are B’s fans thoughts on something around Carlo and DeBrusk? Any insight on what DeBrusk’s next contract could look like?
 

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That doesnt change my point. If Boston thinks OEL is the difference between them winning a cup or not his pay wont matter. Besides OEL is owed less than his cap hit at this point.

So you disagree with flat cap and Covid affecting trade market?

What are B’s fans thoughts on something around Carlo and DeBrusk? Any insight on what DeBrusk’s next contract could look like?

Would make absolutely no sense.

To rebuild the defense and let Krug/Chara/Carlo go in short amount of time, and Bostons biggest need is secondary scoring and to trade their only top6 W outside Pasta/Marchand for D-man?
 

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Yeah this only makes sense for Boston if AZ is looking for a futures/cost savings based deal. One where they are able to dump most or all the contract on Boston. Bruins have several NHL ready D prospects (Vaakaneinen, Zboril, Lauzon), known NHL players signed to multiyear deals between 1.5 and 1 million bucks (Bjork, Clifton), and some lower cost RFA or soon to be RFAs (Frederic, Gryz, Kase, Ritchie). Maybe Bruins retain on Krejci and it becomes a three way deal with the Yotes picking up some more draft capital from Krejci's return as well.
 

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