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beowulf

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Their is a rumor going around that Bond 25 will open with the death of Bonds wife which would be Madeleine Swann from Specter. Basically taking a page from Her Majesty's Secret Service's book.

“The film’s like Taken with Bond,” says the source, who adds that the suave spy is trying to avenge his wife’s murder.
 

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Their is a rumor going around that Bond 25 will open with the death of Bonds wife which would be Madeleine Swann from Specter. Basically taking a page from Her Majesty's Secret Service's book.

That's how Diamonds Are Forever starts. On Her Majesty's Secret Service doesn't have a revenge plot in it, but his wife does die at the very end.
 

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That's how Diamonds Are Forever starts. On Her Majesty's Secret Service doesn't have a revenge plot in it, but his wife does die at the very end.

That was For Your Eyes Only where Bond picks up a wheelchair bound 'bald villian' with a white cat and drops him down a smoke stack.

It was never explicitly stated to be Blofeld though due to the legal issues over the Thunderball script (and Never Say Never Again)

The whole 'taking a page from On Her Majesty's Secret Service' I'm assuming is having Bond's wife die.
 

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That was For Your Eyes Only where Bond picks up a wheelchair bound 'bald villian' with a white cat and drops him down a smoke stack.

It was never explicitly stated to be Blofeld though due to the legal issues over the Thunderball script (and Never Say Never Again)

The whole 'taking a page from On Her Majesty's Secret Service' I'm assuming is having Bond's wife die.

Both Diamonds Are Forever and For Your Eyes Only start with him taking revenge on Blofled. Makes no sense in For Your Eyes Only since we haven't even seen Blofeld in 6 movies, and his wife died 7 movies before that. At least Diamonds Are Forever is the very next movie.
 

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Indeed it would have to do with how Bond marry's Contessa di Vincenzo at the end of the towards the end of the book only to have Blofled kill her hours later.

So it will be a loose adaptation if anything and it's only a rumor I saw and some are sort of saying it's like a Bond version of Taken. I guess that would have to be Taken 3 as I believe that's the one where is wife is killed and in the first two the daughter and then the wife are kidnapped but not killed.
 

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His wife being murdered would be so cliche and the obvious route. I hope they don't take the easy way out there.

I posted an idea on a Bond forum a while back that revolves around something similar though.

Basically, you have his wife be attacked at their wedding in the pre credits sequence.

Afterwards, it's revealed she isn't dead, but in a coma. Bond still goes on his rampage looking for revenge through the movie, but at the end, she wakes up. The kicker is: she has partial amnesia. She doesn't remember anything about their relationship. When she opens her eyes and sees Bond in her room, she asks who he is.

He pauses, a look of pain momentarily flashes across his face, then a wry smile. "A friend" is all he says, and the movie ends.

Perfect end to Craig's Bond. He finds happiness for a fleeting moment, has it all taken away, then makes the ultimate personal sacrifice to ensure that the person he loves (who doesn't know he loves her) isn't in danger because she's married to him. He's a service man, OHMSS, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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His wife being murdered would be so cliche and the obvious route. I hope they don't take the easy way out there.

I posted an idea on a Bond forum a while back that revolves around something similar though.

Basically, you have his wife be attacked at their wedding in the pre credits sequence.

Afterwards, it's revealed she isn't dead, but in a coma. Bond still goes on his rampage looking for revenge through the movie, but at the end, she wakes up. The kicker is: she has partial amnesia. She doesn't remember anything about their relationship. When she opens her eyes and sees Bond in her room, she asks who he is.

He pauses, a look of pain momentarily flashes across his face, then a wry smile. "A friend" is all he says, and the movie ends.

Perfect end to Craig's Bond. He finds happiness for a fleeting moment, has it all taken away, then makes the ultimate personal sacrifice to ensure that the person he loves (who doesn't know he loves her) isn't in danger because she's married to him. He's a service man, OHMSS, nothing more, nothing less.

Interesting and all and indeed his wife dying might be a bit cliché but it does come from the source material the movies are based on and I find the Craig movies seem to allow for more of the source material than many of the older movies.
 
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There's no coincidence the two best Bond films were directed by Martin Campbell. I'd like to see him come back and direct a new one. Wouldn't mind Nolan but we're likely going to see Tom Hardy as Bond if Nolan sticks around as director and that's no bueno.

Tom Hardy just may be the best actor around these days. He could pull of Bond no problem. The role may be beneath him as an actor, to be honest.

Let Superman do it. He's handsome and English as hell. I also liked the idea of Idris Elba, who is a damn good actor as well.
 

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Danny Boyle always felt like a bit of an odd fit. It isn't a talent issue, but rather a style issue. Boyle, honestly, is probably both too big and too idiosyncratic for a Bond movie. It isn't that he couldn't do one, but would the Broccoli family and producers let him do one the way he wants to do it? This is also a reason why I can't see Nolan ever doing one (just as names like Tarantino and Scorsese before him allegedly had interest/desires to do a Bond movie, which went no where ...)

For better or worse, the series' guardians tend to gravitate more toward solid veterans as directors -- dudes like Martin Campbell, Lewis Gilbert, Terrance Young, Michael Apted. Good directors, but not necessarily big names or guys with specific personal styles. Maybe they're more malleable to demands? I don't know. Sam Mendes might be the most accomplished director the series has had, but he also came in at a point when he was well past his Oscar winning critical high-point peak ...

A guy like Christopher McQuarrie strikes me as the exact type of director who'd eventually land the gig. Talented and good. But not a household name and not someone who'd you'd attribute any specific style or quirks to.

Edit: Just read another article that floated Ben Wheatley who would be super interesting, though I wonder if he would be a bit too stylish ... and then it mentions Joe Wright who strikes me as the exact right mix of talent and bland inoffensiveness (not to mention Britishness) that I'm kicking myself I didn't think of him before.
 
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Nolan Bond would be amazing, but I'd rather Nolan give me another one of his own movies and not something from a universe he didn't create.

With that said, if and when Craig is done I think Nolan doing an origin story reboot of the Bond franchise would kick ass. It certainly worked with batman
 

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Nolan Bond would be amazing, but I'd rather Nolan give me another one of his own movies and not something from a universe he didn't create.

With that said, if and when Craig is done I think Nolan doing an origin story reboot of the Bond franchise would kick ass. It certainly worked with batman

Agree on your point about Nolan sticking to his own thing, but have to respectfully disagree about a Bond origin story (regardless of director).

The last thing this world (meaning the entire world, not just the Bond world) needs is more origin stories. It's the same rote beats over and over (regardless of franchise). Heck the ham-handed attempts to squeeze origin backstory/motivation into Spectre ruins what otherwise should be an entertaining movie. Casino Royale, to its credit, actually does a decent job without beating it over your head, but I don't need any more than what's done there.

James Bond is about the last fictional character we need to ask the question"Why?" of.
Just let him drink and carouse and kill and be cool. This is fun dammit.
 
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Agree on your point about Nolan sticking to his own thing, but have to respectfully disagree about a Bond origin story (regardless of director).

The last thing this world (meaning the entire world, not just the Bond world) needs is more origin stories. It's the same rote beats over and over (regardless of franchise). Heck the ham-handed attempts to squeeze origin backstory/motivation into Spectre ruins what otherwise should be an entertaining movie. Casino Royale, to its credit, actually does a decent job without beating it over your head, but I don't need any more than what's done there.

James Bond is about the last fictional character we need to ask the question"Why?" of.
Just let him drink and carouse and kill and be cool. This is fun dammit.
Yeah I'd have to agree. Much as I'd love to see a Nolan Bond, the character's story absolutely doesn't need a reboot.
 

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Tom Hardy just may be the best actor around these days. He could pull of Bond no problem. The role may be beneath him as an actor, to be honest.

Let Superman do it. He's handsome and English as hell. I also liked the idea of Idris Elba, who is a damn good actor as well.
While I agree that Hardy is one of the best working actors around, I don't know that beneath him really applies here. I mean what would be a better role for Hardy? Eddie Brock or James Bond?
 

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Dany Boyle is out as director. Rumor is Christopher McQuarrie is the replacement.

McQuarrie-Bond would get me legitimately hyped up beyond belief. This guy managed to follow up a great Ghost Protocol MI movie with an even better Rogue Nation/Fallout duo.
 
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While I agree that Hardy is one of the best working actors around, I don't know that beneath him really applies here. I mean what would be a better role for Hardy? Eddie Brock or James Bond?

Yeah you are right. It's not beneath him. What I should have said is that he seems to take chances in the roles he chooses. James Bond would be the safest choice of his career since really breaking out. I would love to see him in the role of Bond because he would kill it.

I went overboard defending against the "no bueno" comment.
 

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Yeah you are right. It's not beneath him. What I should have said is that he seems to take chances in the roles he chooses. James Bond would be the safest choice of his career since really breaking out. I would love to see him in the role of Bond because he would kill it.

I went overboard defending against the "no bueno" comment.
Well I'm in total agreement that he could absolutely kill it as Bond.
 
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Cloned

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Practically speaking I think Hardy is too short for Bond.

The producers have shown a willingness to open it up in terms of hair colour, accent type and race, but I think height is going to remain a sticking point for them.

I realize Craig isn’t very tall himself but when you start going below 5’9” I think it becomes an issue.
 

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Hardy wouldn't be able to mumble his way though Bond. I love the guy (mostly), but boy does he love characters who are borderline unintelligible.
 
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Tom Hardy just may be the best actor around these days. He could pull of Bond no problem. The role may be beneath him as an actor, to be honest.

Let Superman do it. He's handsome and English as hell. I also liked the idea of Idris Elba, who is a damn good actor as well.

That he is but wouldn't you rather have someone young enough to carry the franchise 10-12 years?
 

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Hardy wouldn't be able to mumble his way though Bond. I love the guy (mostly), but boy does he love characters who are borderline unintelligible.
Bronson
Locke
Inception
Legend
Warrior
This means war (shitty movie but still makes my point)
The Drop
Dunkirk

All movies where Hardy is perfectly intelligible. Seems like Venom is one as well. Like I don't think it's a good thing that he has others like The Revenant, Peaky Blinders, TDKR, Mad Max, and Lawless where you really have to pay attention to understand what he's saying but it's not like mumbling his only speaking method. I'm sure if he ever got the call to be Bond he would understand he needs to speak clearly and with a certain level of charm.
 

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