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Cloned

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News all over the interwebs the last 2 days is that Nolan's production company Syncopy is attached to produce Bond 25.

The other rumour is that Craig is close to a return for a final film.

Aside from the obvious excitement that a Nolan-directed Bond film would generate, the other thing would be a Hans Zimmer Bond score. I'm getting giddy just thinking about it.
 

CHfan1

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Nolan directing would be awesome, would love to see Craig back in the role one more time as well.
 
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Nalens Oga

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That's below him. I'd rather he do another original film instead. Inceptions, Interstellars, Mementos, and Prestiges don't grow on trees.
 

Cloned

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That's below him. I'd rather he do another original film instead. Inceptions, Interstellars, Mementos, and Prestiges don't grow on trees.

He wouldn't say no. It's been a dream of his. And I don't blame him.
 

HanSolo

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With Nolan at the helm I think that's a good a chance as any to see Hardy as Bond as I'm gonna get if Craig doesn't return. Though I would like him to. He's my second favorite Bond behind Connery even if he wasn't too great in Spectre.
 

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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Would make for an interesting movie, but I'll believe it when I see it.

It would be really out of character for the Broccoli family. They'd have to give up some control and some money -- two things there really isn't any reason for them to do. And two things they've never really done.

They have always resisted bringing in big name directors. Mendes is honestly probably the most accomplished director the series has had, but he wasn't really at his late 1990s/early 2000s peak anymore.

Never says never ... but this would be a big change in how the family has handled the series for the previous 24 films.
 

WarriorOfGandhi

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That's below him. I'd rather he do another original film instead. Inceptions, Interstellars, Mementos, and Prestiges don't grow on trees.

Interstellar definitely grows on trees, that movie was mediocre

w/r/t Bond, I'm cautiously optimistic. All of Craig's Bond movies have had this weird trend where they have a particular glaring flaw (pacing, villain/scheme, resolution, supporting characters respectively) that keeps them from being really good. Nolan's movies are usually very well put together, his touch might be what the franchise needs to get a slamdunk Bond movie out of Craig
 

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Interstellar definitely grows on trees, that movie was mediocre

w/r/t Bond, I'm cautiously optimistic. All of Craig's Bond movies have had this weird trend where they have a particular glaring flaw (pacing, villain/scheme, resolution, supporting characters respectively) that keeps them from being really good. Nolan's movies are usually very well put together, his touch might be what the franchise needs to get a slamdunk Bond movie out of Craig

It's been a long time since I've watched it, but I remember really digging Casino Royale.
 

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It's been a long time since I've watched it, but I remember really digging Casino Royale.


Casino Royale was fantastic and generally regarded as one of the best Bond films, as was Skyfall to a lesser extent. WOG has some...let's call them "interesting" views on well-received movies. :D
 

HanSolo

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Casino Royale was fantastic and generally regarded as one of the best Bond films, as was Skyfall to a lesser extent. WOG has some...let's call them "interesting" views on well-received movies. :D

I feel generally people's opinions on Casino Royale, Skyfall, and Quantum of Solace vary very differently but most people felt Spectre was average to terrible.

Personally I believe Casino Royale is one of if not the best Bond movie. I feel like it's the perfect blend of modern Bourne style action with classic Bond setting, intrigue, and espionage.
 

WarriorOfGandhi

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It's been a long time since I've watched it, but I remember really digging Casino Royale.

I really liked a lot of Casino Royale, including Craig and Green and the tone of the story. But I thought that Le Chiffre wasn't properly used. He's a great villain with a commanding presence, more so than any other Bond villain since Treveylan, but as the story unfolds he becomes less and less important. When the African guy was threatening to chop off his woman's hand and when he was killed by Mr White instead of Bond, it transformed the story it so that Le Chiffre wasn't even in charge of the whole evil scheme and trivializes Bond's role of stopping him. Which, it turns out, Bond didn't even do.

Also, I really thought the poker aspect was overdone to death. The tournament could have been cut down to 15 or 20 minutes without losing anything, but instead it drags on and has dumb things like Matthis explaining the pot size like its an ESPN broadcast.
 

HanSolo

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I really liked a lot of Casino Royale, including Craig and Green and the tone of the story. But I thought that Le Chiffre wasn't properly used. He's a great villain with a commanding presence, more so than any other Bond villain since Treveylan, but as the story unfolds he becomes less and less important. When the African guy was threatening to chop off his woman's hand and when he was killed by Mr White instead of Bond, it transformed the story it so that Le Chiffre wasn't even in charge of the whole evil scheme and trivializes Bond's role of stopping him. Which, it turns out, Bond didn't even do.

Also, I really thought the poker aspect was overdone to death. The tournament could have been cut down to 15 or 20 minutes without losing anything, but instead it drags on and has dumb things like Matthis explaining the pot size like its an ESPN broadcast.

But that was kind of the point.

Bond wasn't supposed to win and he very clearly doesn't. This is his first step into SPECTRE's web. He's supposed to lose so hard that he sets out to take down SPECTRE and avenge Vesper.

Le Chiffre to me is a more interesting villain because his commanding and intimidating screen presence falls apart when you see he's not even one of the biggest pieces on the chess board. He unravels in a very human way as everything falls apart around him.

I don't know. I can see why you felt the way you did for sure, but the same reasons you felt he wasn't effective, I felt he was more compelling.
 

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There's no coincidence the two best Bond films were directed by Martin Campbell. I'd like to see him come back and direct a new one. Wouldn't mind Nolan but we're likely going to see Tom Hardy as Bond if Nolan sticks around as director and that's no bueno.
 

HanSolo

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There's no coincidence the two best Bond films were directed by Martin Campbell. I'd like to see him come back and direct a new one. Wouldn't mind Nolan but we're likely going to see Tom Hardy as Bond if Nolan sticks around as director and that's no bueno.

Why? Have you seen Inception and Legend? He can do it. I'd rather see Craig back but I wouldn't mind Hardy
 

Buckets and Gloves

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I hope tbey move on from Craig.

Spectre was lackluster and dare I say boring at parts... I love Bond, love Walz... seemed perfect connection but it sucked... bad plot, and Craig seemed old/sleepwalking

I was really hyped for spectre, I really wanted to like it... i left disappointed... it was like they just said out if nowhere "ya its me Bloefeld the whole time"... no build up or hint throughout other movies, came off as lazy writing/plot device and total waste of a legendary villian

Give me Idris Elba as Bond
 
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Kurtz

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Below him? He made Batman movies.

Don't sell him short...

Prior to Batman Begins, superhero movies were campy trash meant to sell action figures to children. Batman Begins was the first hit, truly adult superhero film which laid ground for the modern superhero revolution.
 

aleshemsky83

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Don't sell him short...

Prior to Batman Begins, superhero movies were campy trash meant to sell action figures to children. Batman Begins was the first hit, truly adult superhero film which laid ground for the modern superhero revolution.
Outside of Logan, nobody has actually done that well.

Superhero movies are much easier to do if you embrace the campy stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and even Iron Man
 

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Outside of Logan, nobody has actually done that well.

Superhero movies are much easier to do if you embrace the campy stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy and even Iron Man
Sam Raimi and Christopher Nolan laid the groundwork for James Mangold. An R-rating is just that. A rating. I enjoy it when filmmakers put their particular stamp on these iconic properties and the finished product doesn't feel like, well, a product.

Putting limitations on the genre is what gets you MCU pablum. Soooo...

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Though I do enjoy some MCU films. And before I'm asked, no, I don't like Zack Snyder's movies.

Anyway, I agree with the previous post regarding Barbara Broccoli's control over the Bond property. Nolan enjoys free rein at Warner Bros. As much as I'm sure that he'd love to do a Bond film, he'd be relinquishing a sizable amount of creative control.
 

Cloned

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Sam Raimi and Christopher Nolan laid the groundwork for James Mangold. An R-rating is just that. A rating. I enjoy it when filmmakers put their particular stamp on these iconic properties and the finished product doesn't feel like, well, a product.

Putting limitations on the genre is what gets you MCU pablum. Soooo...

DX6ISXQ.gif


Though I do enjoy some MCU films. And before I'm asked, no, I don't like Zack Snyder's movies.

Anyway, I agree with the previous post regarding Barbara Broccoli's control over the Bond property. Nolan enjoys free rein at Warner Bros. As much as I'm sure that he'd love to do a Bond film, he'd be relinquishing a sizable amount of creative control.

Wait, you're back?! Just in time for the playoff run! :)
 

Blender

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I can't see Nolan doing a Bond movie unless we his given the complete control he has for his other movies.
 

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Since Nolan likes to explain a lot in his movies, it's now guaranteed that the villain will explain in detail how he's going to conquer the world to Bond so everyone will know how Bond will defeat him.
 
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Blender

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Since Nolan likes to explain a lot in hsi movies, it's now guaranteed that the villain will explain in detail how he's going to conquer the world to Bond so everyone will know how Bond will defeat him.

So every Bond movie ever made? This is such a Bond trope that Austin Powers has an entire sequence dedicated to it.
 

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