Bobrovsky first 31 games - .897 sv% 3.29 GAA

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Someone tried to tell me GM's are never idiots when it comes to FA's.

LOL.

Fun thread seeing some of the immediate defenders of Bob considering how it has gone since. (My fav is Soundandfury of COURSE having to defend the russian player)

Now tbf to those early thread guys, it HAD been just 5 games. Way too early to be definitive and FLA fans were very much happy with Bob/down on their own D.

Then you have the fun back and forth about winning a cup with a good goalie vs an elite one. Fun bc of how both guys alternated between decent points and really bad, misleading ones (One poster was way more guilty of the latter. You be the judge of who)

Then I skipped to the end just now. Maybe I'll read the rest later.

 

[StoneHands]

This will be a historically bad contract.

Is*

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

He's too good to be this bad already.

I haven't seen him play.

I assume it's connected to a lack of confidence, no? If so - I hope he bounces back. It's easy to get inside your head too much when stuff goes wrong.

He can't decline just like that.. he's not that old.

And exactly how bad is the D?

 

[StoneHands]

He's too good to be this bad already.

I haven't seen him play.

I assume it's connected to a lack of confidence, no? If so - I hope he bounces back. It's easy to get inside your head too much when stuff goes wrong.

He can't decline just like that.. he's not that old.

And exactly how bad is the D?

To be fair, his save percentage has gone down every year since his last Vezina. Even behind a solid defense in a defense first system he didn't post great numbers last season.

2017: .931 SV%
2018: .921 SV%
2019: .913 SV%
2020: .896 SV%

 

[ViD]

To be fair, his save percentage has gone down every year since his last Vezina. Even behind a solid defense in a defense first system he didn't post great numbers last season.

2017: .931 SV%
2018: .921 SV%
2019: .913 SV%
2020: .896 SV%

That was due to average first couple months, he was lights out the second half of the season

 

[StoneHands]

That was due to average first couple months, he was lights out the second half of the season

That's the thing about hockey, it's a 6 month season so when you play poorly for the first 2 months, it's going to negatively affect your numbers. You're making it sound like playing bad for a third or in your words half of the season isn't a big deal. Bob didn't really turn it around until mid December and even then he posted a .921 SV% for the remainder of the season which is good but hardly "lights out" considering it would have ranked him 11th in the NHL.

 

[DaJackal]

This is why you should never pay 10M to a goalie - or at least long-term.

Looking at CapFriendly, there are currently 16 goalies in the NHL* making 5M or more.
Only 4 of them have a sv% of 0.915 or more (Rask, Hellebuyck, Lehner, Varlamov).
Only 3 of them have a GAA of 2.7 or less (Rask, Varlamov, Hellebuyck).

Conclusion: This season, Rask and Hellebuyck are the only ones who are sporting long-term contracts and doing great. There are others who are somewhat playing up to their contract (in addition to Lehner & Varlamov I'd say at least Andersen & MAF considering their W/L ratio), but their numbers don't scream "this is why I get paid this much!".

Goalies are voodoo. Even Rinne, who has been rather consistent (at least when looking at season stats; everyone goes through rough stretches), has fallen below .900. While I think he'll bounce back when NSH improves their D game, those numbers are not good - especially for a $5M goalie.

*Luongo is not in the NHL anymore.

 

[Ratsreign]

It's all good, it looks like Bob has a new mask. So, he'll be fine now.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

That's the thing about hockey, it's a 6 month season so when you play poorly for the first 2 months, it's going to negatively affect your numbers. You're making it sound like playing bad for a third or in your words half of the season isn't a big deal. Bob didn't really turn it around until mid December and even then he posted a .921 SV% for the remainder of the season which is good but hardly "lights out" considering it would have ranked him 11th in the NHL.

Dude, we get it. You hate the Panthers for whatever reason and are always taking shots at them for whatever reason. The Bob contract, the Coots vs Huberdeau thread etc.

Its bordering on obsession...

 

[stator]

Good thing the Sharks didn't pay Jones anywhere near $10M.

 

[IslesBro715]

This is quickly looking like one of the worst contracts in the league. Though it's tough to completely fault Bob for that stat line. He doesn't have the D that he had with the Blue Jackets.

 

[Canes]

It's almost like GMs don't care how bad a contract could be when they known there will be compliance buyouts right around the corner after another CBA.

 

[Emerz]

This is why you should never pay 10M to a goalie - or at least long-term.

Looking at CapFriendly, there are currently 16 goalies in the NHL* making 5M or more.
Only 4 of them have a sv% of 0.915 or more (Rask, Hellebuyck, Lehner, Varlamov).
Only 3 of them have a GAA of 2.7 or less (Rask, Varlamov, Hellebuyck).

Conclusion: This season, Rask and Hellebuyck are the only ones who are sporting long-term contracts and doing great. There are others who are somewhat playing up to their contract (in addition to Lehner & Varlamov I'd say at least Andersen & MAF considering their W/L ratio), but their numbers don't scream "this is why I get paid this much!".

Goalies are voodoo. Even Rinne, who has been rather consistent (at least when looking at season stats; everyone goes through rough stretches), has fallen below .900. While I think he'll bounce back when NSH improves their D game, those numbers are not good - especially for a $5M goalie.

*Luongo is not in the NHL anymore.

Agreed, there are very few goalies who should be above the 8.5M range and truthfully just about the only two I’d feel comfortable paying those numbers are Vasi and Rask, maybe Hellebuyck.

 

[StoneHands]

Dude, we get it. You hate the Panthers for whatever reason and are always taking shots at them for whatever reason. The Bob contract, the Coots vs Huberdeau thread etc.

Its bordering on obsession...

And here you are, yet again, quoting me while bringing absolutely zero substance to the discussion. Care to rebut anything I said? Anything at all? If not, then move along.

Talk about obsessed.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Nice try. Ekblads actually good this season.

It was cool seeing 40 YO Marleau skate by him yesterday before setting up a scoring chance, mostly because of the age and season Ekblad is having.

 

[Tripod]

He is still a guy that could go on a crazy heater for 2 months and it would shock few people. The fact the Panthers are in a playoff hunt with how bad he has been is surprising. If he gets hot, the wins could start racking up.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Good thing the Sharks didn't pay Jones anywhere near $10M.

Lol. They're busy giving about 20 m to the LTIR right now.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

It was cool seeing 40 YO Marleau skate by him yesterday before setting up a scoring chance, mostly because of the age and season Ekblad is having.

Right? It was cooler when the Sharks lost

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Right? It was cooler when the Sharks lost

Wasn't trying to be rude, but congrats on beating a bad team. Only took 3 Rat years to become competitive again.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Wasn't trying to be rude, but congrats on beating a bad team. Only took 3 Rat years to become competitive again.

Still not trying to be rude?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

And here you are, yet again, quoting me while bringing absolutely zero substance to the discussion. Care to rebut anything I said? Anything at all? If not, then move along.

Talk about obsessed.

We know it's a bad contract.
Get over it.
You're the one that needs to move along because you pretend to know the ins and outs of the Panthers and you don't
Does it make you feel better to shit on the Panthers any chance you can?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Still not trying to be rude?

Hockey has sucked this season for the Sharks. Seeing Marleau have a flash of speed like he was in his 20's again yesterday was exciting, and the player he skated past was being discussed, so I brought it up. I even implied Ekblad was having a good season.

Hope Florida does well from here on.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

My team has a number of bad contracts, but man, this contract is absurdly bad. What an awful decision by the Panthers.

 

[StoneHands]

We know it's a bad contract.
Get over it.
You're the one that needs to move along because you pretend to know the ins and outs of the Panthers and you don't
Does it make you feel better to **** on the Panthers any chance you can?

Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a message board. So no, I don't need to move along as long as I'm staying on topic, which I am. I'm not claiming to know the "ins and outs" of the Panthers, but if you have a problem with anything I'm saying, just provide some kind of rebuttal to anything I've said backed up by facts or statistics and prove me wrong. There are nearly 700 posts here and you reply to me every chance you get but never bring anything to the table. If you know the contract is bad and think there's nothing else to add here, simply scroll past the thread. This is the main boards, not your team's safe space. Either add something to the discussion or go away.

 

[Viqsi]

Just in case you haven't noticed, this is a message board. So no, I don't need to move along as long as I'm staying on topic, which I am. I'm not claiming to know the "ins and outs" of the Panthers, but if you have a problem with anything I'm saying, just provide some kind of rebuttal to anything I've said backed up by facts or statistics and prove me wrong. There are nearly 700 posts here and you reply to me every chance you get but never bring anything to the table. If you know the contract is bad and think there's nothing else to add here, simply scroll past the thread. This is the main boards, not your team's safe space. Either add something to the discussion or go away.

Well, you have been taking generalized pot shots at Panthers fans, including earlier in this thread, so there's some cause for disgruntlement. I mean, I can understand why it would be in the interest of some Flyers fans to crap on and/or otherwise dismiss Bob and his career as much as possible, seeing as though it makes having given him up in the first place hurt less, but that doesn't excuse taking it out on fans of the team that currently employs him.