Bob McKenzie's preseason top prospects

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  1. NeverGoingToWin

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    1) Nail Yakupov - 7 first place votes
    2) Matt Dumba - 1 first place vote
    3) Filip Forsberg
    4) Ryan Murray - 1 first place vote
    5) Alex Galchenyuk - 1 first place vote
    6) Mikhail Grigorenko
    7) Morgan Rielly
    8) Nick Ebert
    9) Derrick Pouliot
    10) Matia Marcantuoni
    10) Jacob Trouba

    Honourable mentions - Aandreas Athanasiou, Cody Ceci, Sebastian Collberg, Martin Frk, Brendan Gaunce, Slater Koekkoek, Griffin Reinhart.

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=376477
     
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    I am quite shocked to see Dumba at #2 also shocked Ebert didn't crack the top 4.
     
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    I'm a little bit surprised to see Dumba at 2 over Murray, and I'm shocked to see no Reinhart in the top 10, but I'm not shocked about Ebert. No offense to him at all he's a great player but he's definitely overhyped and possibly even overrated on these boards.

    A few people have really drummed him up as this potential first overall candidate which basing it on the fact that defensemen have a lot of trouble going number one, even if a player like Yakupov wasn't in this draft and he's really not a first overall candidate from what I've seen of him.
     
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    Yakupov and Galchenyuks English has really improved over the summer.
     
  5. Galchenyuks english was already very good wasn't it?
     
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    Frk will jump into the top 10.
     
  7. Similar look to Buttons list.
     
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    It looked like a list based strongly on the Ivan Hlinka tournament.
     
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    Very solid list by McKenzie. All the right players are there and while we can debate actual rank spots, none of the players are that far out of place (IMO).

    Dumba is higher than I thought (had him around 5th-6th) but he's my favourite defensive prospect.

    Very good list.
     
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    Yes. Galchenyuk's english was already good. He grew up in Milwaukee.
     
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    Just for fun , this is how Bob McKenzie ranked last year's draft class back in his September 2010 preseason ranking show (actual draft position in brackets):

    Pre-Season Top 10 2011 Draft Rankings:

    T1. Sean Couturier (8th)
    T1. Adam Larsson (4th)
    3. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (1st)
    T4. Gabriel Landeskog (2nd)
    T4. Brandon Saad (43rd)
    6. Victor Rask (42nd)
    7. Matt Puempel (24th)
    8. Dougie Hamilton (9th)
    9. Adam Clendening (36th)
    10. Seth Ambroz (128th)

    HM:
    11. Namestnikov (27th)
    T12. Brett Ritchie (44th)
    T12. Duncan Siemens (11th)
    14. Scott Harrington (54th)
    T15. Boone Jenner (37th)
    T15. Ryan Murphy (12th)


    It just goes to show how easily these rankings change over the course of the year and even some of the best in hockey can't get them right.
     
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    that concussion of his isnt helping his case
     
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    Look at the preseason rankings before the 2007 draft and try to find Patrick Kane's name anywhere.
     
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    Murray did have a first place vote, it's Forsberg that didn't.
     
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    Ya, we will definitely see some movement between rankings to say the least. Should still be an amazing draft though.
     
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    No it wasn't and no he didn't. He wasn't even in grade school when he left North America.

    His English last year was better then Yakupovs, but I wouldn't hve called him fluent at all. His accent was also a lot thicker. It's 10x better then it was last season.
     
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    Thanks. That is very interesting.
     
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    Doesn't surprise me too much, with the exception of a few picks here and there, I've always thought Button's lists weren't too far off from the consensus overall.

    I don't know if I'd say that, 4 of the 11 on that list didn't play in the Hlinka at all, and one more (Marcantuoni) barely played due to injury.

    Though it would make sense that the majority of the top prospects were at the Hlinka, since it is for the most part a best-on-best tournament for that age group.
     
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    No. Extremely thick accent.
     
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    Dumba at #2 is the highest I've seen him.
    Forsberg at #3 is the highest I've seen him.
    Rielly at #7 is the highest I've seen him
    Pouliot at #9 is the highest I've seen him.

    Even the HM's in Athanasiou, Collberg, Gaunce, Koekkoek all of them had strong Ivan Hlinka Tourneys. I'm not saying anything is wrong with the list, but it looks greatly comprised from that tournament. I'm sure that list will change as the season goes on. The fact they have Pouliot ahead of Reinhart is a little baffling but he did have a better IH Tourney than Reinhart did.
     
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    This isn't necessarily 100% McKenzie's list either. They surveyed 10 scouts and it's the consensus. I am sure Button was one of those "scouts" so that's why you might see some similarities.
     
  22. Except Button isn't an NHL scout so probably not.
     
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    Tell him that ;) haha.
     
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    Griffin Reinhart and/or Cody Ceci will be picked by the Isles....Im calling it now...
     
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    I hope it is being that he reps USA.....we would have problems if he couldnt speak English
     

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