Player Discussion Bo Horvat

[Horse McHindu]

Lets do drugs, and get smashed and partyinstead, bonding!! Like the Casino for example.

And lets not pretend they don't, I work in a Casino and have seen the Canucks there multiple multiple times a year.

Bo Horvat does not party. Most of the team don’t and they certainly don’t go clubbing. Virtanen being an exception. The veteran leadership on this team aren’t big drinkers

That’s another reason why it’s so important to being in the right type of vets and right type of leadership.

People often ask why a smart rebuilding team like Vancouver doesn’t just sign PTO vets rather than signing tenured vets to long term contracts? It’s for reasons such as these. Along with having gone deep in the playoffs (Beagle) or having been a former elite player (Miller, Vrbata, etc), these are the guys that create the disciplined culture on and off the ice. People can mock this all they want, but these things are real.

There’s a reason why guys like Virtanen and Hutton have been given tough love by the coaching staff.

 

[pgj98m3]

That’s another reason why it’s so important to being in the right type of vets and right type of leadership.

People often ask why a smart rebuilding team like Vancouver doesn’t just sign PTO vets rather than signing tenured vets to long term contracts? It’s for reasons such as these. Along with having gone deep in the playoffs (Beagle) or having been a former elite player (Miller, Vrbata, etc), these are the guys that create the disciplined culture on and off the ice. People can mock this all they want, but these things are real.

There’s a reason why guys like Virtanen and Hutton have been given tough love by the coaching staff.

And the results have been stunning so far.

 

[CanaFan]

That’s another reason why it’s so important to being in the right type of vets and right type of leadership.

People often ask why a smart rebuilding team like Vancouver doesn’t just sign PTO vets rather than signing tenured vets to long term contracts? It’s for reasons such as these. Along with having gone deep in the playoffs (Beagle) or having been a former elite player (Miller, Vrbata, etc), these are the guys that create the disciplined culture on and off the ice. People can mock this all they want, but these things are real.

There’s a reason why guys like Virtanen and Hutton have been given tough love by the coaching staff.

But if Horvat and Virtanen have been brought up in the same culture, how do you explain the vastly different results?

Obviously individual players are different, but does all this expenditure of assets and money to bring in “mentors” and “culture carriers” make a difference? I’m not seeing any evidence that it does.

 

[canuckfan75]

So he was not named captain. Lets see what happens at the Draft?

 

[Horse McHindu]

But if Horvat and Virtanen have been brought up in the same culture, how do you explain the vastly different results?

Obviously individual players are different, but does all this expenditure of assets and money to bring in “mentors” and “culture carriers” make a difference? I’m not seeing any evidence that it does.

Fair enough points.

I think if we see Virtanen turn it around one day as a result of what would hopefully be great off ice work ethic, then perhaps this would be evidence that mentorship is a real thing.

We are seeing tough love being given to guys like Goldobin, Hutton, and Virtanen to some degree, and so we’ll see what becomes of it.

 

[StreetHawk]

So he was not named captain. Lets see what happens at the Draft?

You don’t expect to see more than a few nights like the Edmonton 6-0 defeat this season?

No reason to have him be the only guy to answer for those games. Could wear on a guy. With McDavid last year despite the poor year no one is going to say that he wasn’t doing his part. Probably not as easy for a 55 point C like Bo.

 

[CanaFan]

Fair enough points.

I think if we see Virtanen turn it around one day as a result of what would hopefully be great off ice work ethic, then perhaps this would be evidence that mentorship is a real thing.

We are seeing tough love being given to guys like Goldobin, Hutton, and Virtanen to some degree, and so we’ll see what becomes of it.

Sure, a coach should be hired based on the needs of a team. But coaches are “free” (assets) and can be simply hired or fired. That’s a different matter than acquiring a never ending laundry list of “vets” and “mentors” that cost assets and/or cap space.

Besides, at the end of the day I’m not sure you can mentor and tough love a marginal prospect into a quality NHL player. We are seeing the team try with Goldobin and Virtanen, but it’s questionable as to whether it can be done. Is Baertschi is the best outcome we’ve seen so far?

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

This is dumb

 

[krutovsdonut]

i hate seeing this thread title on the menu. surely we have enough to be negative about.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

It gets even worse, I just heard the audio interview with Horvat.

He basically goes off on fortnite and games in general, saying they are a waste of time, he says this over and over.

What a ****ing ignorant human, having an opinion on not liking games is fine, but being so ignorant about them is another.

Not just as a gamer, but as a person with common sense, my opinion on Horvat just dropped significantly, Horvat might as well be 60 years old with his dinosaur mentality.

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-...s-adds-fuel-to-the-fire-for-canucks-1.1184871

You kidding me?
Your opinion on Bo as a person dropped because he openly says that he doesn’t like fornite?
Also the Elias might gets traded theory....

Dude...get off the internet

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Some people are gamers and some aren’t. It happens. Personally I think banning them is silly, but I also think it’s much ado about nothing in the long run.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Some people are gamers and some aren’t. It happens. Personally I think banning them is silly, but I also think it’s much ado about nothing in the long run.

My guess is that they must have found out some players not performing to their best because of the lost of sleeping time due to video games

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

My guess is that they must have found out some players not performing to their best because of the lost of sleeping time due to video games

Alex Auld had the same theory - and you're probably correct.

I find Laine's comments more hilarious than anything else. At the end of the season, everyone is going to have a lot more pressing issues to discuss relating to this team than who plays video games or not.

 

[StreetHawk]

My guess is that they must have found out some players not performing to their best because of the lost of sleeping time due to video games

When you think about a typical road trip on a game day you are not going to practice as it appears to be the case with most teams. And depending on whether you played the night before you might have gotten to bed at 2-3 am.

If you traveled the night before likely your wake up call the next day is closer to 11am and team meal at noon. You take a nap in the afternoon and you leave for the rink by 4pm. So on game days you’re really not afforded time to play games.
If you had the prior day off, you’re meeting the team for breakfast. So your days starts a bit earlier.

On off days during a road trip, you will have some down time. You will do a practice on the off day either traveling the night before or you may practice at the city you just played at them day or fly out then land and go right to practice. But on most 4-5 game road trips you are extremely lucky if you don’t have a back to back situation. So IMO if you can’t be off gaming on the 35 or so off days that you have in the road, it’s probably too much of your life.

Your gaming times are generally limited to the game night if you travel the next day rather than right after the game or you play on your off day between games.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Alex Auld had the same theory - and you're probably correct.

I find Laine's comments more hilarious than anything else. At the end of the season, everyone is going to have a lot more pressing issues to discuss relating to this team than who plays video games or not.

Virtanen and Hutton seems like the obvious suspect, both were young guys on the team last season, both under performed and both we’re in the dog house for a while

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Agreed. No way a guy goes from no letter in 4 years to captain. People on Here are delusional. Will be Sutter or Gudbransen. Elder / Delzotto with A

I’m just going to leave this here.

 

[Dr Good Vibes]

This whole video games thing is just so weird. I mean, video games can be super f***ing addictive. I know that I've stayed up later than I should have playing games before. Though Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Fallout is more my jam.

I think there MUST have been some evidence internally that it was hurting their performance. I can't see why Bo Horvat and Co. would decide to ban games UNLESS they had a strong reason to believe it was hurting the team. The optics of releasing that internal decision publicly are quite bizarre. I think it would've been better if they kept it internal.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Imagine being Pettersson and walking into this situation.

Since being drafted in 2017, he's probably had so many discussions with his coaches and players and family in Sweden on what to expect when he enters the NHL. He probably has had a lot of serious conversations on the expectations and demand of being a professional NHL player.

First day of the regular season, Horvat approaches him in a serious and somber tone and informs him "Rule #1, no video games and especially no Fortnite."

 

[Peter10]

This whole video games thing is just so weird. I mean, video games can be super ****ing addictive. I know that I've stayed up later than I should have playing games before. Though Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Fallout is more my jam.

I think there MUST have been some evidence internally that it was hurting their performance. I can't see why Bo Horvat and Co. would decide to ban games UNLESS they had a strong reason to believe it was hurting the team. The optics of releasing that internal decision publicly are quite bizarre. I think it would've been better if they kept it internal.

Video games can be highly addicting but as pretty much any other addictions that usually happens when you have trouble going on in your world. In particular then video games are often use to flee from reality into a "better world". I doubt many NHLers would have a risk of getting addicted to games unless something else is going seriously wrong in their life and even then video games wouldnt be the reason but rather a symptom of something being wrong.

 

[Dr Good Vibes]

Video games can be highly addicting but as pretty much any other addictions that usually happens when you have trouble going on in your world. In particular then video games are often use to flee from reality into a "better world". I doubt many NHLers would have a risk of getting addicted to games unless something else is going seriously wrong in their life and even then video games wouldnt be the reason but rather a symptom of something being wrong.

Fundamentally disagree with this sentiment. Video game addiction isn't something that only troubled people experience. It's a widespread phenomenon. Video games are super fun. They're really good at drawing people in, at entertaining, and just like the Wire demands your attention despite anything else that's happening, video games can sometimes do the same. You don't need to have trouble going on in your world.

Some people also just have addictive personalities. Doesn't mean they're innately troubled, it's often times genetic.

 

[wavaxa2]

This Fortnite ban will work out about as well as Tom Renney's beer ban.

 

[DonnyNucker]

So he was not named captain. Lets see what happens at the Draft?

Lol

 

[Gaunce4gm]

Michael Del Zotto has to teach the kids how to properly harass porn stars. Can't have these kids sitting around talking and playing games together! Gotta hit the DMs and piss off Lisa Anne!

 

[Josepho]

I’m just going to leave this here.

Except he does have a letter...

 

[Huggy]

Love Horvat exposing the younger posters on the board.

Video games are a waste of time unless you're Ninja or Summit1.

Get good scrubs.