Bo Horvat vs. Nazem Kadri

[WetcoastOrca]

When Kadri was Horvat's age he scored 44 points in 48 games.

Horvat's done nothing to even be in the discussion with Kadri.

Horvats better than Kadri. Not close. Not even debatable. No one cares about Kadri’s 44 points years ago. Save it for a game of Hockey Trivia.

 

[eviohh26]

Pretty damn Silent from Leafs side of things.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Pretty damn Silent from Leafs side of things.

Apparently they have no interest in posting about a player they believe would barely fit in their fourth line.

 

[nowhereman]

Horvat would still be the Leaf's 4th line Centre.

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't mean it's true.

 

[Willy Styles]

Pretty damn Silent from Leafs side of things.

Horvat plays almost 5 minutes more a night and Kadri has been snake bitten. It’s a lot easier to score when your given prime opportunities on bad teams

 

[HockeyGuruPitka]

Pretty damn Silent from Leafs side of things.

Thats because Horvat is the better player and most Leaf fans would agree with this sentiment. Myself included. Doesnt mean Kadri is a bad player.

 

[Love]

Horvat plays almost 5 minutes more a night and Kadri has been snake bitten. It’s a lot easier to score when your given prime opportunities on bad teams

Is 38% O-Zone starts and 61% D-Zone starts a “prime opportunity”? Kadri gets more offensive zone starts and less defensive zone starts by the way.

 

[DieTomi]

Horvat is better. Any Leafs fan saying otherwise is losing all credibility.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Even before Kadri started having a poor season. Bo before, Bo now, Bo future.

 

[Regal]

Horvat plays almost 5 minutes more a night and Kadri has been snake bitten. It’s a lot easier to score when your given prime opportunities on bad teams

Playing heavy defensive minutes while Sutter and Beagle were out with Tim f***ing Schaller on your wing isn't prime opportunities but ok

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Horvat plays almost 5 minutes more a night and Kadri has been snake bitten. It’s a lot easier to score when your given prime opportunities on bad teams

Can we adjust Kadri’s points by the ‘snake bitten’ factor then.
I’m not sure if you’ve watched the Canucks but Horvat is the guy playing the heavy defensive minutes on the team due to injuries. He may still lead the league in faceoffs taken, I haven’t checked recently.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Horvat has been maintaining a 70 point pace for pretty much the entire season (currently on pace for ~72 points). His current stat projection for the season is 36-36-72. I'm not sure that he actually hits 70 points, but 65 is looking like a fair estimate right now.

 

[Kelly]

It was certainly closer when this poll was made, but Kadri hasn't really looked himself for majority of the year, and Horvat has been great.

Voted Bo at the start of the year, and that gap is only larger for me now.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Horvat has been better than Kadri this year and the gap will continue to widen from here on out. Not close for me.

 

[Icebreakers]

Playing heavy defensive minutes while Sutter and Beagle were out with Tim ****ing Schaller on your wing isn't prime opportunities but ok

And Kadri doesn't even kill penalties lol. I thought he was a two way C. He averages 0 seconds of sh time.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Thats because Horvat is the better player and most Leaf fans would agree with this sentiment. Myself included. Doesnt mean Kadri is a bad player.

His production doesn't state that...again.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Horvat has been better than Kadri this year and the gap will continue to widen from here on out. Not close for me.

...and the years before?

 

[Pyrophorus]

Horvat has been maintaining a 70 point pace for pretty much the entire season (currently on pace for ~72 points). His current stat projection for the season is 36-36-72. I'm not sure that he actually hits 70 points, but 65 is looking like a fair estimate right now.

So on basically on par?

 

[Pyrophorus]

Even before Kadri started having a poor season. Bo before, Bo now, Bo future.

Complete falsehood.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

So on basically on par?

Sure. If you give Kadri a two stroke handicap every hole both players are on par.
If Horvat was on the Leafs there’s not a Leafs fan who would take Kadri over him. They’re not close currently.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

So on basically on par?

On par with what? I don't understand.
It's also worth mentioning that Horvat's linemates have been pretty egregious this year. He spent a lot of time with Schaller for a while. Now he's playing with Goldobin and Virtanen - they aren't terrible by any means, but they'd likely be 3rd liners on most teams.

 

[34]

Kadri has not played well this season at all. The entire Leafs team has been bad really.

Up until this terrible season, Kadri with back to back 32 goal seasons has been way better than Horvat.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Kadri has not played well this season at all. The entire Leafs team has been bad really.

Up until this terrible season, Kadri with back to back 32 goal seasons has been way better than Horvat.

The Canucks have struggled mightily, including an 8 game losing streak and losing 12 out of 13 games recently. So your excuse about the team playing bad actually applies more to Horvat than it does to Kadri. Kadri also has Marleau and Nylander as linemates now, which is a big upgrade on Goldobin and Virtanen (and Schaller ffs). Kadri also gets to play with Tavares, Matthews, Rielly, and Marner on the first unit PP, which is an upgrade on Leivo, Boeser, Pettersson, and Edler.

Kadri put up his two 30+ goal seasons when he was 26 and 27 years old. Horvat is 23 years old and is on pace for 36 goals.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Horvat has clearly passed Kadri this season and likely won’t be looking back.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Horvat would be the Leaf's 4th line Centre.

That comment right there proves that you had absolutely no intention of this thread being an honest debate...Its just a vehicle for you to get into a pissing match with Canuck fans (which you seem to thrive on).