Confirmed with Link: Bill Zito is the Panthers new GM

[letsgrowcactus]

Yeah, I'm not sure if you policy statements are necessarily true, especially on Stillman: By the time Stillman was up, we had enough injuries that we were using him on the first PK at a time when our team was weaker, so it makes sense that his unconditional numbers are worse as the other team's top powerplay is usually better...and I don't think we can make any statements on optimal pairings...

TO see this best, I focus on 12/24/2019-03/12/2020 as the sample period. Weegs was hurt on the 12/23; Stillman was called up on 12/28; Weegar comes back Feb 4th. We see that with both players healthy, Stillman and Weegar have identical usage:

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Do you have data for Stillman vs Weegar on the penalty kill for different time periods? It looks like Q liked keeping regular pairs, so Stillman and Stralman were relied on a lot...and afterwards looked much better. If I recall correctly, we often played Stillman-Stralman against the top powerplay still in February and well it doesn't make sense to change pairings much...

I don't - and you're right that there's context missing here such as the time periods. Both guys played 80 minutes on the PK so the sample size somewhat is limited too. That said, both Weegar's 5-on-5 chart and his PK chart have him easily as our most successful defender, and the difference between his and Stillman's numbers is so big that I don't think you can blame it solely on the different time periods. At the very least I'd look into giving him more PK minutes. However I might have been too harsh on Stillman here, especially with him being a rookie (although that was part of my reasoning as well; giving the young guy more time to get used to the league before giving him serious PK time). Two things both Stillman and Weegar do is they block shots and they hit - something certain other defenders could learn from them.

Anyway, unless Matheson is the guy we move, we'll have some pretty big holes to fill re: the special teams. We lose Stralman, that's our most used guy on the PK. Moving Yandle creates an even bigger hole on the PP (he played 255 minutes this year; the next closest is Ekblad with 97 and after that, the next highest icetime guy is Matheson with 13 PP minutes).

 

[letsgrowcactus]

I’ll claim that anyone who’s played competitive hockey at any level will say that you play defensively more responsibly if you have a goalie who you think might have trouble. It’s really true for any sport with a goalie, but especially hockey where fluky goals are more the norm than the exception.

How did the team do offensively with the three goalies? That might be a secondary indicator. How about delay of game penalty counts? There might also be a correlation.

Montembeault got easily the best offense (xG/60 2.67). Bob got the worst offence (xG/60 2.42) while Driedger's was only slightly better (xG/60 2.47).
The sample size is obviously tiny but those are the numbers for what it's worth.

 

[violaswallet]

I don't - and you're right that there's context missing here such as the time periods. Both guys played 80 minutes on the PK so the sample size somewhat is limited too. That said, both Weegar's 5-on-5 chart and his PK chart have him easily as our most successful defender, and the difference between his and Stillman's numbers is so big that I don't think you can blame it solely on the different time periods. At the very least I'd look into giving him more PK minutes. However I might have been too harsh on Stillman here, especially with him being a rookie (although that was part of my reasoning as well; giving the young guy more time to get used to the league before giving him serious PK time). Two things both Stillman and Weegar do is they block shots and they hit - something certain other defenders could learn from them.

Anyway, unless Matheson is the guy we move, we'll have some pretty big holes to fill re: the special teams. We lose Stralman, that's our most used guy on the PK. Moving Yandle creates an even bigger hole on the PP (he played 255 minutes this year; the next closest is Ekblad with 97 and after that, the next highest icetime guy is Matheson with 13 PP minutes).

Yeah, so here are the non-advanced stats for the periods

I think the important thing to look at is this: Ek's GA/60 falls by 6 from going to Pysyk/Matheson to Weegar as a pair, which is good evidence of what you're arguing

Stillman also falls by about 2 goals/60 which is also big. (I think Ek and Stillman played together a bit at times)....I don't know how to interpret the differences in expected goals against and attributing it to defensemen... On one end, really good defense could lead to low expected goals against, but it might just be luck...

I'm guessing your stat is picking up the Stillman-Ekblad defense pair that played less than 7 minutes together and gave up three goals and then penalizing Stillman because Ekblad's per minute numbers fell...which I don't think is fair.

Edit: Interestingly enough, the unconditional powerplay numbers for Stralman were better with Stillman than not. (Pre Weegar injury, Stralman's GA/60 was 6.5 while Weegar and Ekblad's were around 10...)

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Did a quick glance at the forwards and I have just one question - where's the "Selke-candidate Barkov" gone to? 'Cause I'd really like that guy back...

Barkov might go down in history as the most hyped "perennial Selke-winner" who never actually won a single Selke-trophy.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Panthers interviewed Snow and asked if Angela Ruggiero wanted to interview

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Barkov might go down in history as the most hyped "perennial Selke-winner" who never actually won a single Selke-trophy.

The thing is, he was playing Selke-worthy a few years back. But the past two years, he's not.

 

[FinlandPanther]

The thing is, he was playing Selke-worthy a few years back. But the past two years, he's not.

He’s still playing really good defense. They told him to play more offensively.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Panthers interviewed Snow and asked if Angela Ruggiero wanted to interview

*sigh*

Panthers, please don’t turn this into a woke culture organization.

 

[Android 16]

*sigh*

Panthers, please don’t turn this into a woke culture organization.

Yeah, wouldn't want to ruin that great culture we got now. We're really going places

 

[CaptainScrewy]

What's up with Fenton? Is that official yet or no?

 

[KW]

Yeah, wouldn't want to ruin that great culture we got now. We're really going places

Woke isn’t merit based. Do you object to merit based hiring for the Panthers?

 

[Dread Clawz]

Woke isn’t merit based. Do you object to merit based hiring for the Panthers?

But it's new and hip so it must be more acceptable than hiring people who actually have qualifications to do the job.

 

[Pigge]

Woke isn’t merit based. Do you object to merit based hiring for the Panthers?

But it's new and hip so it must be more acceptable than hiring people who actually have qualifications to do the job.

If you are talking about Angela Ruggiero, she has merits aplenty. Not as a GM, but in sports analytics and innovation, IOC, and all sorts of other areas. Definitely an interesting prospect for an organization looking to switch things up a bit.

 

[violaswallet]

If you are talking about Angela Ruggiero, she has merits aplenty. Not as a GM, but in sports analytics and innovation, IOC, and all sorts of other areas. Definitely an interesting prospect for an organization looking to switch things up a bit.

Yep: experience at a major hedge fund, hockey and spirts administration, Harvard degree

I don’t think she was a serious candidate for the job for the same as Weekes.

To be honest I could see her joining a team’s management sometime

 

[Dread Clawz]

If you are talking about Angela Ruggiero, she has merits aplenty. Not as a GM, but in sports analytics and innovation, IOC, and all sorts of other areas. Definitely an interesting prospect for an organization looking to switch things up a bit.

Those aren't qualifications for a gm. She has no experience whatsoever working in the nhl or even being around the nhl, let alone working in management in the nhl.

 

[Pigge]

Those aren't qualifications for a gm. She has no experience whatsoever working in the nhl or even being around the nhl, let alone working in management in the nhl.

Agreed. It would be reasonable to do a year as assistant GM first, like Chayka. On the other hand the merits she does have may already include most of the necessary skills. I guess that would be a reason to interview.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Agreed. It would be reasonable to do a year as assistant GM first, like Chayka. On the other hand the merits she does have may already include most of the necessary skills. I guess that would be a reason to interview.

I could see her being hired as an.advisor, but if it was me I'd want her to gain a few years experience before promoting her further.

 

[Bure1096]

Read a tweet that EDM is looking at Connolly. Kept the team afloat at the beginning of the season but faded when needed most. I'd take a 2nd or 3rd to get his contract off the books.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Read a tweet that EDM is looking at Connolly. Kept the team afloat at the beginning of the season but faded when needed most. I'd take a 2nd or 3rd to get his contract off the books.

Great. Rather underwhelming player, especially in important games. Should fit in nicely with the Oilers.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I'd edmonton wants connollly I want one of their young defensemen.

 

[Bure1096]

I'd edmonton wants connollly I want one of their young defensemen.

I would too but I don't think Connolly would equal Nurse in this case. Panthers would have to add.

 

[violaswallet]

I would too but I don't think Connolly would equal Nurse in this case. Panthers would have to add.

Connolly is on a pretty fair deal and is someone we will need if we lose Hoff and Dad...

If we can re-sign Hoff or Dady (especially if we need more space), I'd do a trade of Connolly for Pulju and put Pulju on the third line...

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Connolly is on a pretty fair deal and is someone we will need if we lose Hoff and Dad...

Connolly is pretty much irrelevant in that regard since he cannot be relied on to be a steady point producer.

 

[Pigge]

Connolly is pretty much irrelevant in that regard since he cannot be relied on to be a steady point producer.

He was a .5 ppg player in Washington, and he was a .5 ppg player in Florida. What would have been acceptable?

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

He was a .5 ppg player in Washington, and he was a .5 ppg player in Florida. What would have been acceptable?

Meaning that he's not a top6 player. Decent for 3rd line duties but if he's not scoring then he's not doing much out there, like creating plays, checking, special teams player, etc.