Biggest Steals/Reaches/Undrafted | ProspectsFanatic's Draft Review

[ProspectsFanatic]

Based on my pre-draft rankings (full top200 is the 3rd post)

* [Number] = Rank on my list.

Best value picks following my list:
11: Oliver Wahlstrom, USDP, F [4]
12: Noah Dobson, QMJHL, D [6]
30: Joseph Veleno, QMJHL, F [15]
33: Jonatan Berggren, SuperElit, F [13]
34: Serron Noel, OHL, F [17]
48: Jonny Tychonick, BCHL, D [28]
58: Filip Hallander, Allsvenskan, F [25]
65: Jan Jenik, Czech2, F [37]
69: Jake Wise, USDP, F [43]
82: Bulat Shafigullin, MHL, F [30]
99: Slava Demin, BCHL, D [54]
111: Jachym Kondelik, USHL, F [67]
113: Aidan Dudas, OHL, F [66]
120: Philipp Kurashev, QMJHL, F [64]
146: Danila Zhuravlyov, MHL, D [61]
185: Xavier Bouchard, QMJHL, D [76]
198: Dmitri Zavgorodny, QMJHL, F [100]
206: Marcus Westfalt, SHL, F [96]

In regards to other popular fallers which aren't notable ones as much on my list:
Ryan Mcleod drafted at 40, ranked at 47. (#26 consensus)
Bode Wilde drafted at 41, ranked at 40. (#17 consensus)
Akil Thomas drafted at 51, ranked at 39. (#22 consensus)
B-O Groulx drafted at 54, ranked at 70. (#31 consensus)
consensus rankings reference

Highest reaches following my list:
4: Brady Tkachuk, USDP, F [11]
5: Barrett Hayton, OHL, F [20]
19: Jay O’Brien, USHS, F [44]
24: Filip Johansson, Allsvenkan, D [95]
27: Nicolas Beaudin, QMJHL, D [52]
38: Alexander Romanov, MHL, D [143]
39: Olof Lindbom, SuperElit, G [115]
47: Cody Clark, OHL, F [133]
80: Marcus Karlberg, SuperElit, F [~210]
81: Seth Barton, BCHL +1, D [220+]
88: Joey Keane, OHL +1, D [169]
90: Dmitri Semykin, MHL, D [220+]
91: Nathan Smith, USHL +1, F [220+]
92: Connor Dewar, WHL +1, F [220+]
102: Jasper Weatherby, BCHL, F [220+]
108: Linus Lindstrand Kronholm, SuperElit, D [220+]

In regards to other popular reaches which aren't notable ones as much on my list:
Vitaly Kravtsov drafted at 9, ranked at 7. (#19 consensus)
Ty Dellandrea drafted at 13, ranked at 19. (#24 consensus)
Liam Foudy drafted at 18, ranked at 26. (#38 consensus)
consensus rankings reference

Notable omissions | Best undrafted following my list:
79 Carl Wassenius F J20 SuperElit
91 Luka Burzan F WHL
92 Kyle Topping F WHL
99 Krystof Hrabik F Czech 2
102 Chase Wouters F WHL
105 Libor Zabransky D WHL
106 Michal Kvasnica F Czech 2
110 Karel Plasek F Czech 2
112 Nando Eggenberger F NLA
114 Matthew Struthers F OHL
117 Pavel Gogolev F OHL
118 Amir Miftakhov G MHL
123 Danila Galenyuk D MHL
124 Justin Brazeau F OHL +2
126 Alex Steeves F USHL
127 Vladislav Kotkov F QMJHL
129 Nathan Dunkley F OHL
132 Anderson MacDonald F QMJHL
138 Linus Nyman F OHL +1
145 Yegor Sokolov F QMJHL
146 Patrick Khodorenko F NCAA +1
148 Nikita Rtishchev F MHL
149 Lukas Wernblom F Allsvenskan
151 Adam Samuelsson D USDP U18
153 Kirill Nizhnikov F OHL
154 Severi Lahtinen F Mestis +1
163 Samuel Fagemo F J20 SuperElit
165 Santeri Salmela D Liiga
167 Adam McCormick D QMJHL
168 Merrick Rippon D OHL
170 Max Golod F OHL
171 Carter Robertson D OHL
172 Patrick Giles F USDP U18
175 Brendan Budy F BCHL
176 Ryan Chyzowski F WHL

Spoiler: Other names

Jack Deboer F USDP U18
Jack Randl F USHL
Jaxon Nelson F USHL
Erik Middendorf F USDP U18
Micha Ivan D QMJHL
Jerry Turkulainen F Liiga +1
Demid Mansurov F MHL
Einar Emanuelsson F SHL +3
Nikita Rozhkov F MHL
Caleb Everett D OHL
Connor Roberts F OHL
Mikhail Shalagin F MHL +1
Jackson Leppard F WHL
Divid Lilja F Allsvenskan
(F) Carl Berglund, SuperElit
(F) Kristian Reichel, WHL +1
(F) Oliver Okuliar, Slovakia
(D) Sean Comrie, AJHL
(D) Ondrej Buchtela, Czech2
(F) Kristian Tanus, JrA-Liiga
(F) David Levin, OHL
(D) Marc Del Gaizo, USHL
(F) Carson Focht, WHL
(D) Anton Malyshev, MHL
(F) Samuel Bucek, USHL +1
(D) Christian Lindberg, Allsvenkan

Drafted players out of my top200+20HM (Forwards & Defensemen):
81: Seth Barton, 90: Dmitri Semykin, 91: Nathan Smith, 92: Connor Dewar, 102: Jasper Weatherby, 108: Demetrios Koumontzis, 117: Linus Lindstrand Kronholm, 121: Alex Green, 123: Jack Gorniak, 125: Miska Kukkonen, 132: Lauri Pajuniemi, 133: Samuel Houde, 135: Brandon Kruse, 138: Hugh McGing, 139: Mikael Hakkarainen, 140: Brandon Saigeon, 142: Michael Callahan, 156: Pontus Holmberg, 161: Alex Kannok-Leipert, 163: Simon Kjellberg, 166: Jesper Sellgren, 20 170: Justin Schütz, 177: Liam Gorman, 178: Hunter Drew, 180: Peter Diliberatore, 181: Dustyn McFaul, 182: John Leonard, 183: Cole Koepke, 186: Artyom Manukyan, 187: William Worge Kreü, 188: Jakov Novak, 190: Brett Stapley, 191: Otto Kivenmäki, 193: Josiah Slavin, 194: Luke Loheit, 195: Patrik Siikanen, 196: Christian Krygier, 199: Jermaine Loewen, 201: Cole Krygier, 203: Eetu Päkkilä, 204: Trey Fix-Wolansky, 205: Radim Salda, 207: Santtu Kinnunen, 210: Sam Hentges, 211: Semyon Kizimov, 216: Riley Hughes.

Total: Out of 188 drafted forwards/defensemen, 46 players were not part of my list; 142/188.


Best player available following my list:
1: Rasmus Dahlin [D]
2: Andrei Svechnikov [F]
3: Jesperi Kotkaniemi [F]
4-11: Oliver Wahltrom [F]
Close option: Zadina [F]
12: Noah Dobson [D]
13-16: Martin Kaut [F]
17-33: Jonatan Berggren [F]
Close options: Joe Veleno [F], Ty Smith [D]
34: Serron Noel [F]
35-48: Jonny Tychonick [D]
49-58: Filip Hallander [F]
Close options: Calen Addison [D], Kirill Marchenko [F].
59-65: Jan Jenik [F]
66-69: Jake Wise [F]
70-82: Bulat Shafigullin [F]
Close: Niklas Nordgren [F], Jakub Lauko [F]
83-99: Slava Demin [D]
Close option: Allan McShane [F]
100-146: Danila Zhuravlyov [D]
Close options: Philipp Kurashev [F], Aidan Dudas [F], Jachym Kondelik [F], Milos Roman [F], Blade Jenkins [F]
147-185: Xavier Bouchard [D]
186-217: Carl Wassenius [F]
Best undrafted (close): Luka Burzan [F], Kyle Topping [F], Krystof Hrabik [F], Chase Wouters [F], Libor Zaransky [D].

So you can compare the selections my rankings would have made for your team by taking the players matching your picks range. If you have multiple picks in that range, take in order the players which are "close" (if they haven't been taken already). If you have multiple picks within a range and there is no "close" player, take the player in the following range.

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Last year rankings done in the same fashion: Software evaluating draft eligible player

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I did similar post in 2013 & 2014, you can check how I have done (as you would expect some hits and misses)
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/my-view-on-2013-draft-slip-and-undrafted.1485675/
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...-drafted-too-high-low-best-undrafted.1704209/

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What are you guys biggest steals, reaches & undrafted?

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[Islesfan22]

Isles got 6 players in your top 100 not bad.

 

[Fantomas]

Value picks = guys we've heard of.

 

[tony d]

Thanks for posting this. I think when the book is wrote on this draft it'll be the Islanders who are judged to have won this. Wahlstrom and Dobson back to back at 11 and 12 are quite the gets.

 

[HoseEmDown]

So what you're saying is Tampa won't hire you as a scout. I believe ever draft pick after Fortier you didn't have ranked, I don't know if you have goalies ranked but the two they picked weren't on many lists so probably not yours.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Value picks = guys we've heard of.

I mean that was to be expected. If you heard of some players pre-draft it is probably for good reasons. It is mostly guys that got drafted in the top100 anyway.

So what you're saying is Tampa won't hire you as a scout. I believe ever draft pick after Fortier you didn't have ranked, I don't know if you have goalies ranked but the two they picked weren't on many lists so probably not yours.

Well, they mostly had late rounders, it is not unusual to see lists wildly diverging for the late rounders. Not many lists had their picks included in them anyway. About the goaltenders, I don't hide the fact that I don't spend as much attention to that position. Will see how their picks pan out compare to who my list would have drafted at their ranks in a couple of years, I tend to compare pretty well.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Reach = A player that has been climbing
Steal = A player that has been dropping

If a player drops significantly, is it really considered steal?

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Reach = A player that has been climbing
Steal = A player that has been dropping

If a player drops significantly, is it really considered steal?

If you follow my list I suggest it is, like for steals I would have expected them to be drafted way higher, obviously there will be some hits and misses, time will tell.

 

[pvr]

You missed Kurashev on your “value picks” list.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

You missed Kurashev on your “value picks” list.

Yep just added him a few minutes ago.

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

Nice job PF. There's a lot of tongue-in-cheek half-assed sarcasm on every post-draft ranking threads, and really not enough people saying thanks to those who take the time to build these things. I for one appreciated your efforts and in the end you did very good.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I mean that was to be expected. If you heard of some players pre-draft it is probably for good reasons. It is mostly guys that got drafted in the top100 anyway.



Well, they mostly had late rounders, it is not unusual to see lists wildly diverging for the late rounders. Not many lists had their picks included in them anyway. About the goaltenders, I don't hide the fact that I don't spend as much attention to that position. Will see how their picks pan out compare to who my list would have drafted at their ranks in a couple of years, I tend to compare pretty well.

They had everything but a 1st so it wasn't like a Calgary who didn't pick until the 4th round. But drafting in general is a crapshoot as many players who were consensus top 100 or 150 didn't even get picked. I don't love their draft but that's more because I don't know if the Russian D or the Swedish goalie plan on coming over anytime soon. I like those picks as I think those guys are under the radar kids but if they don't come over for many years it's not as good a pick. We've been going with a lot of former kr current USHL kids who go the college route so we have a few more years of evaluation, we've yet to have one of them break out into a top prospect though so not confident these kids will. So I think they had one of the worst drafts of any team.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Added best player available by rank which you can compare with your team selections.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Drafting has my home team, the Habs:
3. Jesperi Kotkaniemi (C) - SM-Liiga - 6’02 [3]
35. Jonny Tychonick (D) - BCHL - 6’00 [48]
38. Filip Hallander (C) - Allsvenskan - 6’2 [58]
56. Jan Jenik (C) - Czech2 - 6’1 [65]
66. Jake Wise (C) - USDP - 5’10 [69]
71. Bulat Shafigullin (L) - MHL - 6’01 [82]
97. Slava Demin (D) - BCHL - 6’02 [99]
123. Danila Zhuravlyov (D) - MHL - 6’00 [140]
128. Blade Jenkins (C) - OHL - 6’01 [134]
133. Xavier Bouchard (D) - QMJHL - 6’04 [185]
190: Carl Wassenius (C) - SuperElit - 6’02 [Undrafted]

Would have liked to move up considering that Berggren being 13th on my list was still available until at 33.

 

[mazmin]

I was certian Adam Samuelsson, Nyberg, Eggenberger, Topping, Vladislav Semin, Anderson MacDonald, Schmidt-Svejstrup, Cesana, and Emanuelsson would be picked.

Lots of skill was left on the table this year!

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

I was certian Adam Samuelsson, Nyberg, Eggenberger, Topping, Vladislav Semin, Anderson MacDonald, Schmidt-Svejstrup, Cesana, and Emanuelsson would be picked.

Lots of skill was left on the table this year!

Yep will be interesting to follow how many of these will get drafted next year. There were many overagers drafted in the later rounds this season.

 

[Castle8130]

After the hawks first round picks were made, I was delighted with who we picked. I would've been satisfied if we didn't draft any more good players because we don't pick until the 3rd round. Then I see that we picked wise, nordgren, and kurashev. I thought all those players should've been gone by round 2, so I think we had a pretty amazing draft after the first round. We also added a pretty solid goalie in Gravel, so I think the hawks did fantastic.

Saying that all 3 of those players were steals in my book and also the wings first 3 picks were steals as well.