Well run and gun is pretty much what we are built for. Speed and shooting ability makes up pretty much the majority of our forward core. Even moreso when Vesalainen joins.
Biggest difference between this year's Jets and last year's Jets?
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Well run and gun is pretty much what we are built for. Speed and shooting ability makes up pretty much the majority of our forward core. Even moreso when Vesalainen joins.
I can accept that. The Jets are more talented than St Louis and they have proved in the past that they can play at a very high level.
I thought the Jets played well in the playoffs but @Board Bard ’s comments aren’t missed on me - we still missed the mark. We should be able to beat St Louis despite the fact St Louis was hot.
Maybe they shouldn’t have been coin flip games. Maybe we should have torn them to pieces in more games.
While the Jets definitely flipped the switch, they still could have been better.
Hopefully the message isn’t lost on the players on this team. They still need to hustle hard and can’t just rely on skill superiority to win games on a regular basis.
I think you’re overreaching here. This series could have gone our way (we’re talking about a lot of 1 goal decisions). If they advanced, the playoff survivors aren’t the cream of the crop.
Yes, the Jets did not look as good as last year but they were not doomed to failure.
Instead of referring back to the regular season, tell me your views of how the Jets actually played during the playoffs and we’ll see if that matches up with reality.
I think a few of you are inappropriately demonizing the effort the Jets gave in the playoffs. Game 6 - yes, a gong show, but the rest of the series was generally hotly contested.
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You mean being outshot just about every game and allowing about 40 shots a game isn’t a recipe for success!
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RelaxYou mean being outshot just about every game and allowing about 40 shots a game isn’t a recipe for success!
Huddy has this
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Sure it was hotly contested, but it shouldn’t have been. This thread asked the difference between last years Jets vs this years Jets...last years Jets would have won this series in 4 or 5 games... this years Jets .... well let’s not dwell on that.
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Mindset for sure.
Last year they wanted to constantly prove themselves.
This year was more sitting on that good team status.
It’s natural thing to happen, but can also let bad things creep into your game and by blowing so many leads in the reg season it basically culminated in game 5 3rd period vs the Blues.
I think they had the potential to hit a higher level than last year but it just didn’t quite happen.
I almost wish they stunk earlier in the season so they would’ve been forced to get hot for the playoffs. I think that suits the Jets a lot better than just flipping the switch. Generally when heavy teams with skill play determined, get battle hardened and that consistency going they can become a machine. I mean, swap the Jets and Blues seasons for the playoffs and i think the Jets can sweep.
Last year they wanted to constantly prove themselves.
This year was more sitting on that good team status.
It’s natural thing to happen, but can also let bad things creep into your game and by blowing so many leads in the reg season it basically culminated in game 5 3rd period vs the Blues.
I think they had the potential to hit a higher level than last year but it just didn’t quite happen.
I almost wish they stunk earlier in the season so they would’ve been forced to get hot for the playoffs. I think that suits the Jets a lot better than just flipping the switch. Generally when heavy teams with skill play determined, get battle hardened and that consistency going they can become a machine. I mean, swap the Jets and Blues seasons for the playoffs and i think the Jets can sweep.
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The team just couldn’t hold on to a lead and became shaky, they lost confidence.
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Why ?
Apparently we were gassed already
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Wrong systems and schemes for the talent available on the roster, keeping dumb dumb Maurice means more of the same. Wake me in December when TNSE finally shows Mo the door!
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Like dumb dumb Maurice said, the Jets play half their games on the road, guys get tired!
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Like dumb dumb Maurice said, the Jets play half their games on the road, guys get tired!
All kidding aside pretty disappointed to hear they’re tired as an excuse
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Only about 50 of us in the Jets threads complained that dumb dumb Mo overplayed Schief and Wheeler and probably BUff, Trouba and Morrissey!
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Exactly-last season the team was young and hungry and full of momentum. Maurice’s hands off leadership approach worked as everyone bought into his systems and worked extremely hard every shift.
This year, the team needed a different leadership style for success-hands on with a whip to hold everyone accountable to work hard within his systems. Maurice did not adapt at all. The players (the vets) were not held accountable in any way. Systems were not adhered to. This sent a huge message to the entire team.
(Of course, add to that Maurice rarely played four lines effectively, rarely made in game adjustments, and made horrendous top 6 deployment decisions all year long. Finally, he NEVER called a time out in third periods to refocus the team to prevent come from behind wins. This, in and of itself is completely mind boggling)
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Yeah..
I think the team was more mentally broken than physically
Maurice has taken a roster with significant potential and carefully molded it into what we see now - a very middle of the road team trying to play a conservative ,low-risk, low-event game with other contender teams that have rosters that are possibly better suited to this style game than us. He has implemented only the most basic of systems in all zones, emphasizing that nearly everything be kept to the outside, close to the boards. and, has few if any pre-set plays to deal with special situations ( quick counters; plays to achieve zone access; plays to transition through a neutral zone trap). He advocates playing a high pressure,"heavy" game everywhere, so as to reduce time and space, with possible turnovers the source of most offence.
This style of hockey can of course result in success, but it is totally dependent not only on an elevated work ethic but moreso actually out-working the opponent(unless one wants to rely upon the refs or the hockey gods themselves for success). It seems that we were unable to elevate our own game sufficiently and certainly not to the threshold level set by our opponents (who also elevated their own game).
If it`s not blatantly obvious already, I believe that the team needs a significant workover in terms of style of play- with a decided move away from what we have now to much more of an aggressive,uptempo transition style, seeking to maximize puck possession. Problem is this is guaranteed not to happen - afterall, this team IS the very personification of Maurice. Those expecting a style change or something different to emphasize player strengths will be sorely disappointed, I fear.
All jmo of course.. .
This style of hockey can of course result in success, but it is totally dependent not only on an elevated work ethic but moreso actually out-working the opponent(unless one wants to rely upon the refs or the hockey gods themselves for success). It seems that we were unable to elevate our own game sufficiently and certainly not to the threshold level set by our opponents (who also elevated their own game).
If it`s not blatantly obvious already, I believe that the team needs a significant workover in terms of style of play- with a decided move away from what we have now to much more of an aggressive,uptempo transition style, seeking to maximize puck possession. Problem is this is guaranteed not to happen - afterall, this team IS the very personification of Maurice. Those expecting a style change or something different to emphasize player strengths will be sorely disappointed, I fear.
All jmo of course.. .
Pretty much what I have been seeing for a while now. He doesn't know how to properly derive a system around the skill he has at his disposal. He is trying to derive a system for a mid talent grinding team. We need better transition offense, more complex break ins that are layered that takes advantage of the teams talent. Laine is great in a layered offense, Conner and Roslovic and Ehelers are as well. On defense Morrissey is at his best joining the rush and jumping into holes. I would argue Niku is the same as JoMo. The square peg round hole system will become more and more apparent as the youth who aren't geared to play it start to drive the bus.
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Vegas has played 7 games in their series, with the 6th game going to double overtime and the 7th game in overtime. They look about four times as energetic as the "tired" Jets.
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