Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Pavel Buchnevich, Sep 23, 2018.
Who is a bigger talent?
Ronaldo is a better natural finisher.
But Mbappe's better at the same age overall.
Still Kyllian has a long way to go to reach Ronaldo peak level.
Too early to say.
Way too early!!
Mbappé has similar traits but El Fenomeno was possibly at his peak the most dominant forward ever.
Hard to match them now.
And for the record I was not talking about his Madrid days.
not sure what's so funny about that. It's his opinion , and it's an opinion not remotely unique to him. I really don't think it's in the realm of "lol".
Disagree if you want, but 'lol' worthy? Nah.
R9's (albeit short lived) peak was something supremely special. At his best, I've never seen anything like it. And many would agree.
We've been over this countless of times on here. not gonna hijack this thread...I just think its funny.
I created this thread because I wanted to see the up and coming star compared to someone other than the two best of the current era. Those comparisons get really boring.
I thought that this was a good comparison because these two are very athletic forwards with tremendous scoring ability, but also supreme athleticism and the ability to create attacking chances 1v1.
Way too early, however, what I've seen from Mbappe tells me he has the potential to surpass all of them.
Ronaldo was the only player I’ve witnessed who I absolutely feared as a fan of the opposition. Whenever he had the ball you just prayed he would gave it away or lose it. He was such a gigantic threat, even without it. Strong like a bull, quick feet, fast and deadly in the box.
Yeah, I'm not a big hijacker either. But for me, an 'lol' opinion is saying Gerrard is dogsh!t, for example, not that Ronaldo is up there with the best.
Ronaldo all day. If not for injuries he would have been right there with Pele Maradona Messi.
Ronaldo at Inter was on another level from any player I've ever seen. Only player who could make Maldini look stupid.
At first glance, I'm sure everyone'll say R9. You'll probably get some silly stuff said how he was better than Cristiano etc.
First of all, R9's best season were his first Inter season and his Barca season.
His numbers, stats, personal and team achievements are absolutely dwarfed by Cristiano and Messi. Both have 7 or 8 seasons better than his best.
And that's the kind of competition that Mbappe has and is compared to, so it's easy to discard his talent in comparison to R9,
Team wise, R9 never won the league title at Inter, Barca or even PSV, just the two at Madrid. And it's not like he was playing for inferior teams (well, PSV wasn't up to Ajax's level).
He never won the CL either.
At 19 and 20, R9 was still playing for PSV - mind you, he was dominating. Not winning the league in the 2 years there can't really be held against him, with "THAT" Ajax in the league.
At 19, Mbappe is a top striker and already a WC champion (and from a Croatian perspective, he was the MOTM in the final).
My point is... I'd still probably say Ronaldo, but it's not nearly as clear cut as people make it out to be.
I think Mbappe is an Henry v2.0, with potential to be better - which is no small feat.
The better question is how good would Ronaldo have been if he didn't hurt his knee
We'll never know.
I don't think it's even important though - there are tons of footballers who were supremely talented but never lived up to their full potential because of injuries, poor work ethic or just generally treating their bodies like garbage (one Robert Prosinecki comes to mind instantly here).
Yeah, Maradona could have been a top 3 player if he had used his talents properly too.
I almost don't even want to say it out loud because it would be a huge tragedy, but anything could still happen to Mbappe's health as well. And thinking of it in that light, it's hard not to feel like it would be seen as an even greater tragedy than Ronaldo's case. With freely admitted proximity bias
Most people here probably don’t even know who Prosinecki is. Never fulfilled his massive potential at Real Madrid because of injuries. Yes he loved his cigs as well. As far as pure technique with the ball one of the best I have ever seen. Ronaldihno still best I have ever seen as far as pure technique with ball.
Maradona going to Mexico to coach El Chapo's team sums up Maradona pretty nicely...
The question was about talent , not career.
Why Messi and CR7 must be dragged into every self-serving diatribe is beyond me.
The simplicity of thought in judging players is baffling. I saw pages of it in the last thread.
You're going to drive yourself crazy on this board if you aren't prepared to ignore large chunks of the discussions around here. There's a lot of bickering, trolling, grudges and arrogance that tends to steer these conversations away from the point of discussion.
Also my vote goes to Ronaldo.
You can't compare talents without looking at how the players used it.
Otherwise Okocha would up there. Ben Arfa too.
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