Gomez was great? I guess we have different understanding of the meaning of the word "great" and how it applies to hockey players.
Yep scored 40+ goals twiceGaborik was a good signing for NYR
That doesn't make it a great signing. Both underperformed for the money they were being paid and the % if the cap they were taking. Yes, Gomez turned into McDonagh, although not sure how that changed Rangers history. One trip to the finals and a President's Trophy is "history"? OK. I guess that is one way to look at it.128 points in 2 seasons.
List of Rangers since Gomez with 128 points in any 2 seasons:
-Marian Gaborik
And then he turned into Ryan McDonagh which changed Rangers history.
Gaborik was also a great signing, now that I mention it.
But, that is exactly my point. I am not saying he was a bad player or a bust. He just was not worth the money he was given or the cap space he ate up. The only UFA's who were? Chara and Neidermayer for Anaheim who I originally forgot was signed as a UFA. Always thought he was traded until I saw someone in this thread mention him and I looked it up.Gomez was a good player for us. Just because he signed for big money doesn't elevate his skill. He played well within his ability I thought. Plus flipping him for Higgins and McD worked out great
Ennis has worked out, Tavares is way way too soon to tell
Marleau has worked out well on and off the ice
Gaborik underperformed? What team are you watching?That doesn't make it a great signing. Both underperformed for the money they were being paid and the % if the cap they were taking. Yes, Gomez turned into McDonagh, although not sure how that changed Rangers history. One trip to the finals and a President's Trophy is "history"? OK. I guess that is one way to look at it.
how is ennis a big signing?Ennis has worked out, Tavares is way way too soon to tell
Marleau has worked out well on and off the ice
Because Ennis is on a 1yr deal so even if he falls off the planet we got our $'s worth.How is it too soon to tell for Tavares but not for Ennis?
I'm genuinely confused especially since Ennis is not a big signing ?
Because Ennis is on a 1yr deal so even if he falls off the planet we got our $'s worth.
Now if J.T declines anytime before year 4-5 its gonna be an ugly deal.
Suter at $7.5m has been worth every penny, especially for the last 3-4 years with a higher cap. Lights-out defensively and consistently puts up 40-50 points; on pace for over 60 this year.But, has their production warranted the money they were given?
Federov signing by the Ducks was actually good (65 pts in 80 games in 2003-2004) even though it was a short stint.
Tavares, Leafs.
Ok, now I see the problem. You clearly have your expectations set way too low. Franchise changing would have been if they did what the Blackhawks or Kings did.Gaborik underperformed? What team are you watching?
Yes, a SCF and a PT absolutely changed the course of this team. You say that like we're swimming in Cups.
Even if I concede on Suter, no way on Parise.Suter at $7.5m has been worth every penny, especially for the last 3-4 years with a higher cap. Lights-out defensively and consistently puts up 40-50 points; on pace for over 60 this year.
From 2015-2017 Parise was all over the place with injuries, but since his back surgery last year he's been great. Should hit 30 goals and 60 points this year, if not more, and he's been one of our better playoff performers when healthy. He hasn't been as good as Suter, but right now having him at $7.5m is just fine.
The question has always been how the ends of the contracts will play out and it's still hard to tell. Suter could well live up to his contract until the very end, especially if the cap keeps going up. Parise's less likely to, but he's also more likely to end up on LTIR.
It's fair to question whether the time was right for that sort of deal and if they would have been better off waiting, but it's not like teams get a chance to make those signings every year. Especially a team like Minnesota. They haven't single- (double-?) handedly brought the glory Wild fans hoped for in 2011, but it's worked out well overall.
Even if I concede on Suter, no way on Parise.Suter at $7.5m has been worth every penny, especially for the last 3-4 years with a higher cap. Lights-out defensively and consistently puts up 40-50 points; on pace for over 60 this year.
From 2015-2017 Parise was all over the place with injuries, but since his back surgery last year he's been great. Should hit 30 goals and 60 points this year, if not more, and he's been one of our better playoff performers when healthy. He hasn't been as good as Suter, but right now having him at $7.5m is just fine.
The question has always been how the ends of the contracts will play out and it's still hard to tell. Suter could well live up to his contract until the very end, especially if the cap keeps going up. Parise's less likely to, but he's also more likely to end up on LTIR.
It's fair to question whether the time was right for that sort of deal and if they would have been better off waiting, but it's not like teams get a chance to make those signings every year. Especially a team like Minnesota. They haven't single- (double-?) handedly brought the glory Wild fans hoped for in 2011, but it's worked out well overall.