Big 12 adding BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, and UCF in 2023

[No Fun Shogun]

Back up to 12 members, which means they’ll get a conference championship game again. While upgrades for the four new additions (BYU’s indy experiment didn’t go too well seemingly), definitely a desperation move by the Big 12 overall.

Big 12 gives OK to BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF

No clue how/if they’ll handle divisional alignment.

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[Big Z Man 1990]

At least the conference name will be accurate again.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Back up to 12 members, which means they’ll get a conference championship game again. While upgrades for the four new additions (BYU’s indy experiment didn’t go too well seemingly), definitely a desperation move by the Big 12 overall.

Big 12 gives OK to BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF

No clue how/if they’ll handle divisional alignment.

They've been having one since 2017...

 

[PCSPounder]

And don’t blink… if you believe this article, anyway.

Big 12 expansion: Boise State, Memphis among schools being discussed as future conference additions

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

And don’t blink… if you believe this article, anyway.

Big 12 expansion: Boise State, Memphis among schools being discussed as future conference additions

Well, the Big 12 should become a superconference too. Lots of schools want to be in the P5.

Here's what an 18-team Big 12 could look like (the irony is that while two Big 12 schools are going to the SEC to make it 16 there, the Big 12 eventually becomes larger than the SEC)

East:
Cincinnati
Memphis
South Florida
Temple
UCF
West Virginia

Central:
Baylor
Houston
SMU
TCU
Texas Tech
Tulane

West:
Boise State
BYU
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Four schools - three division winners and the best runner-up (using conference records only) would compete for the right to be named Big 12 champion in football, with a semifinal round preceding the championship game.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

They've been having one since 2017...

Oh darn, yeah. You're right.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

The Big 12 would also have a critical advantage over the other P5 conferences with my proposed alignment - they are spread across almost the entire US, only the Pacific Time Zone not having any members (among the four in the lower 48).

The other P5 leagues are more or less confined to a certain part of the country - the ACC on the East Coast (except Louisville and Notre Dame), the Big Ten in the Midwest or in three cases, the Mid-Atlantic, the Pac-12 in the West, and the SEC in the South (except arguably Missouri).

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

And by being from coast to coast almost, you can recruit from coast to coast.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

I think you're overstating the positives of that. Eastern and western kids aren't going to really care about playing in front of home fans once or twice a collegiate career, and Midwestern and Southern kids are far more interested in the Big 10 and SEC.

This is just a Frankenstein* conference in the making. At most, this might help newcomers attract Texans than anything.

* https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/frankenstein_2x.png

 

[mouser]

The Big 12 would also have a critical advantage over the other P5 conferences with my proposed alignment - they are spread across almost the entire US, only the Pacific Time Zone not having any members (among the four in the lower 48).

The other P5 leagues are more or less confined to a certain part of the country - the ACC on the East Coast (except Louisville and Notre Dame), the Big Ten in the Midwest or in three cases, the Mid-Atlantic, the Pac-12 in the West, and the SEC in the South (except arguably Missouri).

Looks like it’s going to be a P4 with the Big 12 becoming the next AAC.

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

Looks like it’s going to be a P4 with the Big 12 becoming the next AAC.

If anything the AAC would vouch for the B12 in getting them to keep P5 staus, the AAC doesn't want what happened to them to happen to another conference.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

If anything the AAC would vouch for the B12 in getting them to keep P5 staus, the AAC doesn't want what happened to them to happen to another conference.

What are you talking about?

 

[HisIceness]

This conference is going to span 3 different time zones

 

[IU Hawks fan]

This conference is going to span 3 different time zones

It's absurd.

 

[ColinM]

Looks like it’s going to be a P4 with the Big 12 becoming the next AAC.

Agreed. At this point the big 12 has more in common with the AAC than the ACC or PAC 12.

Perhaps its better that only 4 conferences have a legit shot at providing national champions.

 

[ColinM]

It's absurd.

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A really huge stretch from when the Big 8 and Southwestern Conference had 8 teams placed close together.