Better forward group: Tampa, Toronto or Other?

Better forward group


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VoluntaryDom

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Miller>>Marleau - Stamkos<Matthews - Kucherov >>>>>Nylander (no hate on Willy tho, Kuch is just a superstar)
Palat>>>>>Hyman - Point<Tavares - Marner=Gourde (hot take)
Killorn>>>Johnsson - Cirelli<<<<<Kadri - Johnson>>Brown
Erne<<Leivo - Paquette>>X - Callahan<<<Kapanen

Prob tampa
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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Miller>>Marleau - Stamkos<Matthews - Kucherov >>>>>Nylander (no hate on Willy tho, Kuch is just a superstar)
Palat>>>>>Hyman - Point<Tavares - Marner=Gourde (hot take)
Killorn>>>Johnsson - Cirelli<<<<<Kadri - Johnson>>Brown
Erne<<Leivo - Paquette>>X - Callahan<<<Kapanen

Prob tampa

Is Gourde your new Jake Dotchin?
 

ottawa

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Miller>>Marleau - Stamkos<Matthews - Kucherov >>>>>Nylander (no hate on Willy tho, Kuch is just a superstar)
Palat>>>>>Hyman - Point<Tavares - Marner=Gourde (hot take)
Killorn>>>Johnsson - Cirelli<<<<<Kadri - Johnson>>Brown
Erne<<Leivo - Paquette>>X - Callahan<<<Kapanen

Prob tampa

Why is Stamkos < Matthews?

If we're talking strictly next year, which we probably are...give me Stamkos all day every day
 

Big Cactus

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Honestly this is as close as it gets. I’m a leaf fan so I’ll state my bias, but I think Toronto’s centre depth could push them over the edge. However Toronto’s left wing is relatively weak and Tampa gets the edge there. Also kappy and Johnsson aren’t proven yet so that could certainly be an argument the other way. Absolute coin flip.
 

ottawa

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You are on a roll today man. Leafs centers > Tampa's quite easily. Marner has better numbers then Kuch had a few years older.

This poll is strictly for next season if I'm not mistaken.

How would you justify Auston Matthews (career high 69 pts) being better than Stamkos and I'm just going to vote we skip the Kucherov vs Marner argument because there's no way you can justify that.
 

VoluntaryDom

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Is Gourde your new Jake Dotchin?
I find Marner rather overrated around these parts, he’s really just a guy who’s stats were inflated by a hot run on the PP. Gourde was a legitimately elite 5v5 scorer this season though he did shoot super high percentage, but even when his percentages regress he’s a well above average 5v5 scorer who is also a play driver and defensive difference maker.
 
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VoluntaryDom

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Why is Stamkos < Matthews?

If we're talking strictly next year, which we probably are...give me Stamkos all day every day
Nah. Matthews doesn’t have the benefit of a Kucherov and is still an Es goal and change generation god.
 

Sidney the Kidney

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I find Marner rather overrated around these parts, he’s really just a guy who’s stats were inflated by a hot run on the PP. Gourde was a legitimately elite 5v5 scorer this season though he did shoot super high percentage, but even when his percentages regress he’s a well above average 5v5 scorer who is also a play driver and defensive difference maker.

Gourde is not better than Marner, nor will he be going forward. Barring some career-altering injury, I will bet you any amount that Marner will be the superior player.
 

Stephen

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I prefer Toronto's group going forward.

Brayden Point is the Tampa forward with the most untapped upside and potential, and the entire Leafs Big Three of Matthews, Marner and Nylander is younger. There's so much growth potential there it's hard not to imagine them surpassing Tampa in short order. And we just added Tavares.
 

Bounces R Way

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Tampa, but not by a whole lot. Tavares has shown a remarkable ability to elevate his linemates in his career, I expect that to continue. TO did just lose their top goalscorer of last year in JVR and I'm not sure if Marleau can just keep scoring goals into forever. The Lightning just have such scoring depth.
 
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