guitaraholic said:it's been so long ago that Beezer and Richter were 'developed' by the Rangers that it might as well be a different organization altogether.
Also you'll get some debate as to whether or not Cloutier was 'developed' by the Rangers.
Finally Blackburn remains a huge question mark and was hardly "developed" by the Rangers at all. Matter of fact their complete and total lack of developing him is coming back to haunt them. So, no, I don't think it's safe to say the Rangers have/can "develop" goalies.
Kritty said:I don't see how anyone can take someone besides Buffalo here. 3 young goalies not even in their prime yet who could all be starting for a team in the NHL very shortly compared to team's with "potential" goalies. There's that word that gets used way too often around here. There is no way you can compare any other teams young goalies to the Sabres.
Pittsburgh - Fleury is unproven and was worn out by NHL shooters last year. Caron is a backup in my books, he was only all rookie goalie because there was no one else. Chiodo has proven diddly. He hasn't even proven he can handle being a #1 in the AHL yet.
Atlanta - Lehtonen is the real deal, but after that, I don't see much. Hurme is overrated in my books and isn't even young anymore. Nurminen is a 2nd tier starter and is also not that young anymore. After that, there is little.
Rangers - Montoya is totally unproven outside of 1 tournament that seems to have everyone pegging him as a franchise goalie now which I don't understand. Blackburn has taken a step back and Lundqvist has never played a game of north american pro hockey.
I just don't see how any comparisons can be made.
X-SHARKIE said:Chiodo was the MVP of the AHL Playoffs, He was amazing. Just because they fell apart in the last two games can't take away from his amazing performance threw the hole playoffs.
X-SHARKIE said:Kritty has made some very silly coments haha.
First you nag on Bernier for being fat, when it's widely proven he isn no longer fat.
Now your saying Chiodo hasn't proven he can handle being #1 in the AHL?
DO you even follow hockey? Or just look at stats and there ages.
Man.
Chiodo was the MVP of the AHL Playoffs, He was amazing. Just because they fell apart in the last two games can't take away from his amazing performance threw the hole playoffs.
it wasn't just one playoff run though. he was the starting goalie for WBS for most of the season, and performed admirably(given the team) when called up to the NHL. he could have a sophomore jinx, but so far his development has been excellent.Kritty said:Oh ya, I know absolutely nothing at all. I like to just shoot from the hip all the time. It gets a rise out of people like you.
1) What has Chiodo proven aside from one playoff run? Exactly. Nothing at all. He could very well fall right back down to earth and disappear like many a goalie has, or he could continue to develop as he has. My point was that he hasn't proven a single thing to me. One playoff run doesn't cement his place as a top notch goalie.
2) Every account I've heard is that Bernier is still not in proper playing shape. He's better than he was but still has some ways to go.
Anything else you care me to enlighten you on? Or should I just continue to babble about nothing at all and hope it comes across as knowledge?
Kritty said:2) Every account I've heard is that Bernier is still not in proper playing shape. He's better than he was but still has some ways to go.
Unknownbutfamous said:Buffalo versus NYR
No they don't.capman29 said:Neither washington has the best trio and if you must know the top five young goalies.
Kritty said:Oh ya, I know absolutely nothing at all. I like to just shoot from the hip all the time
clefty said:Ryan Miller will break out big time next season. Write it down.
Reilly311 said:Pittsburgh by far. How can anyone say the Rangers? You know why they draft montoya? cause Danny might not ever be able to play well again.
thestonedkoala said:Other:
Lehtonen, Nurminen, Hurme (if he returns), and Garnett
capman29 said:[Daigneualt, Stana, Ouellet...who are the other two that make up the so called "top five young goalies". And don't say Matthew Yeats. None of these guys would make the top 5.
Sorry about that but I did make a small mistake it is not the top 5 but the top 6 :
Quellet,Stans,Daigneualt,Ghersen, Eddy & Muller . Of these six goalies Muller is the lowest one and in the 2004 draft class they added another that is projecte to be a good goalie in the NHL. Othat group at lest three will be #1 goalies either in washington or somewhere else.If you are looking for quality young goaltenders washington has the marke cornered.