Best ways to get over the plateau where gains aren't gaining as fast as you want them to?

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  1. VickAshley

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    I'm literally feeling like I'm even maybe taking a step or two backwards instead of towards my goals and I wanted to ask some of the experts here what you may have done or recommend doing when your gains are feeling like they are not gaining as fast or as much?

    I'm literally eating just as much if not moreso, I'm in the gym 10 or more hours/per week on a daily basis except of course the Lord's day (Sunday, day off rest) and for some reasons I'm feeling stronger but not looking bigger and literally measured and lost a halve inch in my biceps since the measurement last month (I used the same measuring tape and was flat/cold/fist-flexed)

    I think it might be that I'm taking too much fiber and it's pooping out the protein before my body is utilizing it into my muscular structural building?

    Then,

    There's a guy at my fitnesse centre who was telling me that the only way to get more swoller faster at a point like this (he called it a "swole slump" wt*?) He says to me that you have to drop the heavy bells and pick up lighter ones and just don't even count reps and don't even do sets just pump them until you can't pump and then take a small break and eat a snack and then get back to pumping.

    Is this a thing?

    Another guy hears him say that and says no, he says to me you get the heavier bells and pump less but pump in sets and count your pumps and do as many sets up to FIVE sets, and then pick up the even heavier bells and pump them 5 times max and then go home, eat a huge meal and go straight to bed.

    Which one works better?

    Also, anyone into x-fitness? Like the one where you throw tires around and run from dobermans and do stuff that you would do in real life like if you had a tough lunchpail blue-collared type of job?

    Thanks.
     
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    Have you had any bloodwork done? You could have hyperthyroidism which means your thyroid gland is working extra fast. That can contribute.

    Otherwise it is likely just your metabolism. Which means you have to eat a lot all of the time and schedule a daily calorie intake to gain.

    The things you are doing will work even crossfit if you stick with them.

    Beyond that, maybe work on accepting your body type and your main goal should be fitness and strength and not being jacked.

    Definitely don't let anyone talk you into taking steroids because they can be hard on your long term health. Had a friend basically die because of and enlarged heart due long term steroid use combined with drugs and alcohol. Others got addicted to heroin eventually because the drug you take to mitigate roidrage is a tranqualizer and for them it led to that.

    Be smart and stay safe.
     
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    Thank you so much.
     
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    No thanks. #nattygains
     
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    Lmao this is a troll post but just for the off chance someone actually is looking for advice on this, depending on how long you lift you will eventually plateau as a natural lifter. You will make 80-85% of your gains in your first two years your "noob gains." After that you'll make fractions of gains especially as you get into 5-10 years of lifting. If you're eating in a surplus and hitting progressive overload then you should see results, even if the results aren't as great as they once were.

    -Eat enough
    -Sleep enough
    -Lift heavy
     
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    Not at all a troll post or I would not have made it so thank you for your input, are you sure lifting heavy is ideal for ideal swolling or higher reps lower weights? I have conflicting viewpoints coming at me inside of the gym.
     
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    High volume (reps of 5) on heavy compounds are the best way to build muscle as a natural. Rep ranges of 8-12 are best for isolation movements, which should be done after your heavy compounds. Squat, deadlift, row, press and bench (not even that important but no bro can go without bench). Heavy chin-ups, dips and rows are better than bench, tbh fam.

    You can get big arms just from chins/pull-ups, you don't ever really need to do curls but who doesn't love doing curls.
     
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    eat more mcdonalds
     
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    LOVE doing curls. LOVE rows. Hate bench because it's literally a short manlet man's lift and I'm grown with literally monkey-esque arms that go almost to my kneeballs.

    Thanks for the tips I think you are fair balanced and not like the gymdorklords I was getting unsolicitated advisements from at the centre.

    Thanks again, literally thanks for all of it and so much.
     
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    @irunthepeg What is your opinion on dropsets? I've heard and read many differing but I've found they work for me.
     
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    There is one reeeeeaaaallly strong guy on here that is stronger than hell that isn't all that tall.

    You've got to conquer your fears and do it. If you're there, at the gym, you'll make friends. They'll spot you.

    If you can't do that then as I said then you need to work on your self-confidence.

    If you can do that the world will open up to you regardless of your motivations.

    And if you're being bullied go get some training instead. You will **** them up if you get some training. Wrestle. Box. Jui Jitsu. Whatever. You may lose but after that they will respect you as long as you don't back down because you will hurt them. And they won't any.

    If is about finding confidence with your sexual preference, I'd do both. Train and read.
     
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    literally i could apply your entire post to my desire to get high on H

    just hit a slump and can't get any higher

    without dying anyway.
     
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    You are very welcome, kind sir. I lovehate rows. They grow your lats but they're sometimes annoying cause I always do them after squats/bench/DL and then it's like more heavy ****.

    I've done them before. Haven't regularly. The biggest thing for me that I'm doing right now for curls or lateral raises is 1.5 reps. So for a curl, you go all the way up, then half way down, then back up, then all the way down. And that's 1 rep.

    I sometimes do some drop sets with curls too but not at all regular enough to see any benefit. They're good for getting that last bit until exhaustion out.

    The big thing is it's not about going til failure and getting DOMS the next day. It's about a good volume at a good weight (have you read much on RPE, that's sort of what I subscribe to these days... lifting at an RPE 8-10 at all times).
     
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    How much do you bench?
     
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    This post has somethings that i can gravitate inwards towards because its very psychological it appears to seem but simultaneously at the same time i am inclined to be a little freaked out by the bullying and even as it used to be true what is with the sexualization of anything im talking about? Makes zero sense because if i was going to be a homo i would have zero problems with that. I just want to gain muscle mass and i have zero problems if men like my abs or my biceps or ass.
     
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    Be cool. Be confident. Love yourself but more importantly love and respect others. IRL. The Internet is just a game.
     
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