Best undrafted player of all time...

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  1. CRUNK JUICE

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    ...that isn't named Wayne Gretzky.

    My vote would either go to Dino Ciccarelli or Ed Belfour, but I could be forgetting a few people. Martin St. Louis could be up there in a few years too.
     
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    The award goes to: Adam Oates
    Runners-up: Dino Ciccarelli, Ed Belfour

    Honourable Mention: Joe Mullen, Tim Kerr, Curtis Joseph, Martin St. Louis.

    Mention: John Madden, Mike Keane, Steve Thomas, Brian Rafalski
     
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    BEST UNDRAFTED PLAYERS (Birth year >=1946)

    "LW"

    Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Thomas Steve -- 1984-85 -- 2002-03 -- 1191 -- 911
    Courtnall Geoff -- 1983-84 -- 1999-00 -- 1048 -- 799
    Lonsberry Ross -- 1966-67 -- 1980-81 -- 968 -- 565
    Marcotte Don -- 1965-66 -- 1981-82 -- 868 -- 484
    Smail Doug -- 1980-81 -- 1992-93 -- 845 -- 459

    Pettersson Jorgen -- 1980-81 -- 1985-86 -- 435 -- 366
    Maclellan Brian -- 1982-83 -- 1991-92 -- 606 -- 413
    Beers Ed -- 1981-82 -- 1985-86 -- 250 -- 210
    Wood Randy -- 1986-87 -- 1996-97 -- 741 -- 334
    Hicke Ernie -- 1970-71 -- 1977-78 -- 520 -- 272
    .
    Brashear Donald -- 1993-94 -- 2002-03 -- 629 -- 157
    Fedotenko Ruslan -- 2000-01 -- 2002-03 -- 228 -- 94
    Dupuis Pascal -- 2000-01 -- 2002-03 -- 160 -- 76
    .
    Lambert Denny - act
    Messier Eric - act
    Krog Jason - act
    Kariya Steve - act
    Varlamov Sergei - act




    "C"

    Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Gretzky Wayne -- 1979-80 -- 1998-99 -- 1487 -- 2857
    Stastny Peter -- 1980-81 -- 1994-95 -- 977 -- 1239
    Oates Adam -- 1985-86 -- 2002-03 -- 1277 -- 1402
    Ridley Mike -- 1985-86 -- 1996-97 -- 866 -- 758
    Unger Garry -- 1967-68 -- 1982-83 -- 1105 -- 804

    Kisio Kelly -- 1982-83 -- 1994-95 -- 761 -- 658
    Adams Greg -- 1984-85 -- 2000-01 -- 1056 -- 743
    Tkaczuk Walt -- 1967-68 -- 1980-81 -- 945 -- 678
    Poulin Dave -- 1982-83 -- 1994-95 -- 724 -- 530
    Charron Guy -- 1969-70 -- 1980-81 -- 734 -- 530
    .
    St.Louis Martin -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 282 -- 165
    Reinprecht Steve -- 1999-00 -- 2002-03 -- 225 -- 133
    White Todd -- 1997-98 -- 2002-03 -- 223 -- 130
    .
    Belanger Jesse - act
    Halpern Jeff - act
    Madden John - act



    "RW"

    Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    Ciccarelli Dino -- 1980-81 -- 1998-99 -- 1232 -- 1200
    Mullen Joe -- 1979-80 -- 1996-97 -- 1062 -- 1063
    Kerr Tim -- 1980-81 -- 1992-93 -- 655 -- 674
    Robert Rene -- 1970-71 -- 1981-82 -- 744 -- 702

    Redmond Mickey -- 1967-68 -- 1975-76 -- 538 -- 428
    Hedberg Anders -- 1978-79 -- 1984-85 -- 465 -- 397
    Sinisalo Ilkka -- 1981-82 -- 1991-92 -- 582 -- 426
    Fairbairn Bill -- 1968-69 -- 1978-79 -- 658 -- 423
    Stastny Marian -- 1981-82 -- 1985-86 -- 322 -- 294
    Frycer Miroslav -- 1981-82 -- 1988-89 -- 415 -- 330
    .
    Keane Mike -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 1097 -- 453
    Johnson Mike -- 1996-97 -- 2002-03 -- 469 -- 275
    Bartecko Lubos -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 257 -- 111
    Odgers Jeff -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 821 -- 145




    "DEF"

    Player Name -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- PTS
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    Orr Bobby -- 1966-67 -- 1978-79 -- 657 -- 915
    Salming Borje -- 1973-74 -- 1989-90 -- 1148 -- 787
    Duchesne Steve -- 1986-87 -- 2001-02 -- 1113 -- 752
    Lapointe Guy -- 1968-69 -- 1983-84 -- 884 -- 622
    Korab Jerry -- 1970-71 -- 1984-85 -- 975 -- 455
    Huddy Charlie -- 1980-81 -- 1996-97 -- 1017 -- 453
    Ledyard Grant -- 1984-85 -- 2001-02 -- 1028 -- 366
    Mcsorley Marty -- 1983-84 -- 1999-00 -- 961 -- 359
    Macoun Jamie -- 1982-83 -- 1998-99 -- 1128 -- 358

    Potvin Jean -- 1970-71 -- 1980-81 -- 613 -- 287
    Maciver Norm -- 1986-87 -- 1997-98 -- 500 -- 285
    Murdoch Bob J. -- 1970-71 -- 1981-82 -- 757 -- 278
    Manery Randy -- 1970-71 -- 1979-80 -- 582 -- 256
    Milbury Mike -- 1975-76 -- 1986-87 -- 754 -- 238
    Tinordi Mark -- 1987-88 -- 1998-99 -- 663 -- 200
    .
    Lefebvre Sylvain -- 1989-90 -- 2002-03 -- 945 -- 184
    Rafalski Brian -- 1999-00 -- 2002-03 -- 308 -- 171
    Klemm Jon -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 560 -- 121
    Boyle Dan -- 1998-99 -- 2002-03 -- 247 -- 112
    .
    Delmore Andy - act
    Devries Greg - act
    Simpson Todd - act


    "GOALIE"

    GOALIE NAME -- First YEAR -- Last YEAR -- GAMES -- WIN
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Belfour Ed -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 797 -- 401
    Joseph Curtis -- 1989-90 -- 2002-03 -- 767 -- 380

    Resch Glenn -- 1973-74 -- 1986-87 -- 571 -- 231
    Casey Jon -- 1983-84 -- 1996-97 -- 425 -- 170
    Healy Glenn -- 1985-86 -- 2000-01 -- 437 -- 166
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    Roloson Dwayne - act
    Hodson Kevin - act
    Skudra Peter -act
    Brathwaite Fred - act


    Numbers without last season
     
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    Thanks for the list. I need to make some additions to:
    Move over Oates. Bobby Orr and Peter Stastny deserve top billing (why wasn't Orr drafted? Injury?; and Stastny was an early European before a draft procedure was set up for them). Oates was the diamond in the rough.
     
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    orr was signed to a bruins contract aged 14...

    geez

    : p
     
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    Gordie Howe was signed as a FA after a year in the USHL.
     
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    The NHL Entry Draft was first held in 1963. Bobby Orr was 14 in 1962.
     
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    Bobby Orr not even close !
     
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    I'm pretty sure it was 68 or 69
     
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    June 5, 1963 at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel in Montreal.

    Here is a link to the 1963 Page:
    Main Page
    1963 Quick Facts Page

    And the frontpage, great site:
    HockeyDraftCentral.com

    Also, here is the draft page at the Internet Hockey Database. It allows for selections by season or team.

    From the Internet Hockey Database,
    Bobby Orr was sponsored. Had he not been sponsored, he would not have been eligible for the NHL Draft until 1966. Boston did have the first overall pick in 1966, and they chose Barry Gibbs.
     
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    I think by undrafted, he means Martin St. Louis style - was eligible for the draft, entered, but was not selected. Am I wrong?
     
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