Best Rosters of All Time

[lfchockey*]

I'm trying to come up with a the best rosters from every team over the history of the NHL and I would like some input from some 'experts' like yourselves.

If you feel that a player needs to be added/removed then please make a reply to this post.

PS (the criteria for a player to be on a certain team is that they must play the most games for that team compared to any other team they played for)

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[John Flyers Fan]

Flyers:

Barber - Clarke - Leach
LeClair - Lindros - Recchi
Propp - Brind'amour - Tocchet
Gagne - MacLeish - Kerr

Extras: Poulin, Dornhoeffer

Howe - McCrimmon
Johnsson - Desjardins
Joe Watson - Pitkanen

Extras: Ashbee, Wilson, Dupont, Jim Watson

Parent
Lindbergh

 

[Blades of Glory]

That's high praise for Pitkanen to put him up there already.

 

[lfchockey*]

Thanks a lot. I cherish your input!

 

[John Flyers Fan]

That's high praise for Pitkanen to put him up there already.

The Flyers have never had much in the way of stud defenseman other than Howe and Desjardins. I'll be very surprised if Pitkanen doesn't win the Flyers first Norris trophy, and finish as th ebest defenseman in Flyers history.

 

[GKJ]

The Flyers have never had much in the way of stud defenseman other than Howe and Desjardins. I'll be very surprised if Pitkanen doesn't win the Flyers first Norris trophy, and finish as th ebest defenseman in Flyers history.

are you going by talent alone, or value to the organization?


If Pitkanen was traded tomorrow, I don't think I would put him in such a high class just yet

 

[Flash Walken]

I'd like to see a team for montreal.

 

[raleh]

Habs:
Moore Belliveau M.Richard
Shutt H.Richard Lafleur
Cournoyer Morenz Geoffrion
Gainey Lach Lalonde

Harvey Robinson
Savard Lapointe
Laperierre Johnson

Roy
Plante

Leafs:
Mahovlich Keon Gilmour
Conacher Primeau Sittler
Sundin Apps Macdonald
Clarke Kennedy Armstrong

Salming Horton
Barilko Clancy
Horner Turnbull

Bower
Broda

Bruins:
Cashman Esposito Hodge
Bauer Schmitt Dumart
Bucyk Oates Neely
Middleton McNab O'reilly

Orr Shore
Bourque Clapper
Quackenbush Flaman

Thompson
Cheevers

 

[El_Scoobo]

Is this considering entire careers or just the player's career on a team? Example.....Terry Sawchuk or Jacques Plante. Could they be considered for Boston because they played there a season or two or not considered because they enjoyed the majority of their success elsewhere.

 

[mcphee]

Flyers:

Barber - Clarke - Leach
LeClair - Lindros - Recchi
Propp - Brind'amour - Tocchet
Gagne - MacLeish - Kerr

Extras: Poulin, Dornhoeffer

Howe - McCrimmon
Johnsson - Desjardins
Joe Watson - Pitkanen

Extras: Ashbee, Wilson, Dupont, Jim Watson

Parent
Lindbergh

If asked which way you'd pick, I'd have bet heavily that you would take Jim W over Joe. That's surprisng to me. I always thought Jim was easily superior. Well, you saw them more than I did.

 

[John Flyers Fan]

If asked which way you'd pick, I'd have bet heavily that you would take Jim W over Joe. That's surprisng to me. I always thought Jim was easily superior. Well, you saw them more than I did.

Very close. Jimmy appeared to be the better skater/passer etc. but Joe actually put up more points, and was more physical. He also had a longer career.

Flip a coin.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Oilers

What I think it would look like.


Kurri - Gretzky - Anderson
Smyth - Messier - Tikkanen
Simpson - Weight - Guerin
Klima - Arnott - Damphousse
Hemsky

Coffey - Pronger
S. Smith - Lowe
Huddy - Niniima
J. Smith

Fuhr
Ranford
Moog
Joesph

I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.

 

[Malefic74]

Habs:
Moore Belliveau M.Richard
Shutt H.Richard Lafleur
Cournoyer Morenz Geoffrion
Gainey Lach Lalonde

Harvey Robinson
Savard Lapointe
Laperierre Johnson

Roy
Plante

Much as I like Plante, I think I would put either Dryden or Durnan ahead of him. But other than that hair-splitting this is pretty close. You could also make the case for Chelios over Johnson.

 

[Snap Wilson]

Much as I like Plante, I think I would put either Dryden or Durnan ahead of him. But other than that hair-splitting this is pretty close. You could also make the case for Chelios over Johnson.

I question the strength of the league at the time of Durnan's dominance, at least enough to place him behind Plante and Dryden. He wasn't great, but the numbers are a bit elevated, I think. In terms of that #6 d-man, I'd go with Butch Bouchard (with the same caveats as Durnan) or J.C. Tremblay.

 

[mcphee]

Here's my team. I start in the early 50's. I figure that there has to be a starting point and the game changed so much from era to era that I don't want to compare Morenz to Cournoyer. I know Lach and Cleghorn and Joliat also get left out, but the team'll be ok.

I'd roll these 4 lines.

Boom Boom Geoffrion- Beliveau- Naslund
Rocket Richard-Henri Richard-Dickie Moore
Lafleur-Lemaire-Shutt
Cournoyer-Pete Mahovlich-Bob Gainey

I picked Naslund so I wouldn't get called a xenophobic Canadian homer. Gilles Tremblay,Claude Provost,Bert Olmstead, even Stephane Richer could be a credible choice on this team. Hell, put Elmer Lach up there, why not Ralph Backstrom,Saku Koivu, Bobby Rousseau,Floyd Curry,Carbo ?

On D. Savard-Robinson
Lapointe-Laperriere
Harvey-Chelios
JC Tremblay could easily join that group. The other 50's d men like Johnson and co. are tough to evaluate due to Harvey's dominance. Bouchard and Tremblay would make a pretty nice mixture of skill and toughness though.

IN nets, Patrick Roy,Dryden and Plante, I'd just take a bribe, I couldn't pick 1 or 2 and think I was right, there are just too many arguements that make sense for each one of them. Hell give me Roy. Dryden and Plante's interviews would run too long.

I'd let Toe Blake coach because Scotty would never take the job if Toe was available.

Roger Doucet could sing the anthems.

Claude Mouton would do the pa.

Danny Gallivan on play by play with Irvin in the booth.

 

[Sens Rule]

Ottawa Senators (modern franchise only)

Heatley-Spezza-Alfredsson
Avedson-Bonk-Hossa
McEachern-Yashin-Dackell
Schaeffer-Fisher-Havlat

Phillips-Chara
Redden-York
Duchesne-Volchenkov

Hasek
Lalime

These have the benefit of (except for Duchesne and Volchenkov) being actual lines and defence pairings over extended periods. The ranking is by line not by individual players. Tough they are lines I think these are the best 12 Sens forwards and 6 D-Men. Apologies to the great early Captain Cunneyworth who is my pick as 13 forward. Van Allen, Leshychyn, Kravchuk, Juneau, Neil, Tugnutt, Rhodes, White, MacIver, Smolinski all deserve HM.

For a new expansion team with a 13 year history that is 4 pretty good lines and 2 great Defence pairings.

 

[lfchockey*]

You guys are amazing!
This is exactly what I'm looking for!

To clarify, for a player to be on a team, he must have played the majority of his career on a certain team.
For instance, Jason Arnott played 302 games for New Jersey and 286 games for Edmonton. Therefore, he would be considered New Jersey's property.

However, a guy like Petr Klima played more games for Detroit than for Edmonton, but because he wouldn't make Detroit's 20 man roster, he would make Edmonton's roster.

The debate throughout the ages will never go away. I think the arguments that you guys make are extremely valid.

I'm going to upload the unpolished rosters that I have so far. It is a Microsoft Excel file so I hope you can open it. Each worksheet is a different team.

 

[EagleBelfour]

Much as I like Plante, I think I would put either Dryden or Durnan ahead of him. But other than that hair-splitting this is pretty close. You could also make the case for Chelios over Johnson.

Plante is one of the best goalie EVER. Dryden isn't as good and talented.

 

[Hedberg]

Vancouver

Goal: Kirk McLean, Richard Brodeur, Gary Smith
Defence: Mattias Ohlund, Ed Jovanovski, Harold Snepsts, Garth Butcher, Jyrki Lumme, Doug Lidster, Rick Lanz
Forwards: Markus Naslund, Todd Bertuzzi, Brendan Morrison, Stan Smyl, Thomas Gradin, Tony Tanti, Orland Kurtenbach, Trevor Linden, Pavel Bure, Andre Boudrias, Geoff Courtnall, Greg Adams, Cliff Ronning, Tiger Williams
Edit: Lumme replaces Kearns

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Vancouver

Goal: Kirk McLean, Richard Brodeur, Gary Smith
Defence: Mattias Ohlund, Ed Jovanovski, Harold Snepsts, Garth Butcher, Dennis Kearns, Doug Lidster, Rick Lanz
Forwards: Markus Naslund, Todd Bertuzzi, Brendan Morrison, Stan Smyl, Thomas Gradin, Tony Tanti, Orland Kurtenbach, Trevor Linden, Pavel Bure, Andre Boudrias, Geoff Courtnall, Greg Adams, Cliff Ronning, Tiger Williams

You're missing: Mark Messier, Cam Neely, Alexander Mogilny, and Jyrki Lumme.

EDIT: Nevermind, just saw that they have to have played most games for the team.

 

[Hedberg]

You're missing: Mark Messier, Cam Neely, Alexander Mogilny, and Jyrki Lumme.

EDIT: Nevermind, just saw that they have to have played most games for the team.

Lumme should be there

 

[lfchockey*]

How about Don Lever for the Canucks?
Or even Dave Babych?

 

[Lapps]

Quick and dirty for the Sabres (some guys like LaFontaine, Hawerchuk, and Horton don't qualify per games played rule):

(lines sort of by era)
Rene Roberts - Gilbert Perreault - Rick Martin
Dave Andreychuk - Pierre Turgeon - Alexander Mogilny
Don Luce - Craig Ramsay - Danny Gare
Miroslav Satan - Daniel Briere - Rob Ray
hon. mention Mike Foligno

Phil Housley - Mike Ramsey
Jim Schoenfeld - Alexei Zhitnik
Larry Playfair - Lindy Ruff
hon. mention Richard Smehlik???

Dominik Hasek
Roger Crozier (technically played more games in Detroit)
if not Crozier: Don Edwards? Martin Biron? Daren Puppa?

 

[arrbez]

You guys are amazing!
This is exactly what I'm looking for!

To clarify, for a player to be on a team, he must have played the majority of his career on a certain team.
For instance, Jason Arnott played 302 games for New Jersey and 286 games for Edmonton. Therefore, he would be considered New Jersey's property.

However, a guy like Petr Klima played more games for Detroit than for Edmonton, but because he wouldn't make Detroit's 20 man roster, he would make Edmonton's roster.

I think the best way to go about it is that a player is only worth his value at that particular time for the team. Basically, it has to be a player who is readily identified with the team, no matter how long he was there. Otherwise there's some problems. The LA Kings are probably defined by Wayne Gretzky more than any other player, but they wouldn't have his "rights" in this contest because he played more games for Edmonton. There's guys out there like Messier, Belfour, Roy, and MacInnis who should rightfully belong to two teams because they accomplished so much with both. But I understand your concern if something like Bourque and Lafleur end up in Colorado/Quebec. I guess what I'm saying is that there should be no strict rule on it, just common sense

 

[pnep]

All-Time Teams (by HHOF Monitor Points )

SJ

Friesen Jeff -- Damphousse Vincent -- Nolan Owen
Sturm Marco -- Marleau Patrick -- Selanne Teemu
Korolyuk Alexander -- Ricci Mike -- Dahlen Ulf
Thornton Scott -- Larionov Igor -- Sundstrom Niklas

Rathje Mike -- Ragnarsson Marcus
Stuart Brad -- Ozolinsh Sandis
Hannan Scott -- Marchment Bryan
Norton Jeff -- More Jayson

Nabokov Evgeni
Irbe Arturs
Shields Steve

VAN

Naslund Markus -- Gradin Thomas -- Linden Trevor
Bure Pavel -- Ronning Cliff -- Smyl Stan
Bertuzzi Todd -- Adams Greg -- Mogilny Alexander
Courtnall Geoff -- Morrison Brendan -- Tanti Tony

Lumme Jyrki -- Snepsts Harold
Kearns Dennis -- Jovanovski Ed
Ohlund Mattias -- Lidster Doug
Babych Dave -- Butcher Garth

Mclean Kirk
Brodeur Richard
Cloutier Dan

NYI

Gillies Clark -- Trottier Bryan -- Bossy Mike
Tonelli John -- Goring Butch -- Nystrom Bobby
King Derek -- Bourne Bob -- Sutter Duane
Gilbert Greg -- Sutter Brent -- Kallur Anders

Potvin Denis -- Persson Stefan
Morrow Ken -- Langevin Dave
Lane Gord -- Jonsson Tomas
Mcewen Mike -- Lorimer Bob

Smith Billy
Resch Glenn
Melanson Rollie

PHO

Tkachuk Keith -- Hawerchuk Dale -- Selanne Teemu
Smail Doug -- Steen Tom -- Maclean Paul
Lukowich Morris -- Zhamnov Alexei -- Doan Shane
Shannon Darrin -- Roenick Jeremy -- Drake Dallas

Numminen Teppo -- Housley Phil
Babych Dave -- Carlyle Randy
Ellett Dave -- Olausson Fredrik
Tverdovsky Oleg -- Watters Tim

Khabibulin Nikolai
Essensa Bob
Burke Sean

COL

Goulet Michel -- Sakic Joe -- Hejduk Milan
Kamensky Valeri -- Forsberg Peter -- Deadmarsh Adam
Tanguay Alex -- Stastny Peter -- Lemieux Claude
Stastny Anton -- Drury Chris -- Young Scott

Bourque Ray -- Blake Rob
Ozolinsh Sandis -- Foote Adam
Klemm Jon -- Leschyshyn Curtis
Gusarov Alexei -- Skoula Martin

Roy Patrick
Gosselin Mario
Bouchard Dan

DAL

Payne Steve -- Modano Mike -- Bellows Brian
Grant Danny -- Broten Neal -- Lehtinen Jere
Parise J.P. -- Smith Bobby -- Ciccarelli Dino
Mccarthy Tom J. -- Nieuwendyk Joe -- Goldsworthy Bill

Zubov Sergei -- Hatcher Derian
Sydor Darryl -- Matvichuk Richard
Hartsburg Craig -- Giles Curt
Maxwell Brad -- Ludwig Craig

Belfour Ed
Turco Marty
Maniago Cesare

BUF

Martin Rick -- Perreault Gil -- Gare Danny
Ramsay Craig -- Lafontaine Pat -- Robert Rene
Mogilny Alexander -- Andreychuk Dave -- Satan Miroslav
Ruff Lindy -- Luce Don -- Audette Donald

Housley Phil -- Schoenfeld Jim
Ramsey Mike -- Zhitnik Alexei
Hajt Bill -- Korab Jerry
Smehlik Richard -- Woolley Jason

Hasek Dominik
Barrasso Tom
Edwards Don

BOS

Bucyk John -- Esposito Phil -- Clapper Dit
Dumart Woody -- Cowley Bill -- Bauer Bobby
Cashman Wayne -- Schmidt Milt -- Middleton Rick
Cain Herb -- Mckenney Don -- Neely Cam

Orr Bobby -- Bourque Ray
Shore Eddie -- Park Brad
Crawford Jack -- Flaman Fernie
Hitchman Lionel -- Mohns Doug

Brimsek Frank
Thompson Tiny
Cheevers Gerry

NYR

Cook Bun -- Boucher Frank -- Cook Bill
Patrick Lynn -- Messier Mark -- Bathgate Andy
Hadfield Vic -- Ratelle Jean -- Hextall Bryan Sr.
Murdoch Murray -- Henry Camille -- Gilbert Rod

Leetch Brian -- Park Brad
Gadsby Bill -- Johnson Ching
Howell Harry -- Heller Ott
Harvey Doug -- Coulter Art

Giacomin Ed
Rayner Chuck
Kerr Dave

CLB

Nash Rick -- Knutsen Espen -- Vyborny David
Whitney Ray -- Wright Tyler -- Marshall Grant
Sanderson Geoff -- Cassels Andrew -- Heinze Stephen
Kron Robert -- Sillinger Mike -- Zherdev Nikolai

Spacek Jaroslav -- Klesla Rostislav
Grand-Pierre Jean Luc -- Quint Deron
Odelein Lyle -- Timander Mattias
Richardson Luke -- Pushor Jamie

Denis Marc
Tugnutt Ron
Brathwaite Fred

MIN

Gaborik Marian -- Walz Wes -- Zholtok Sergei
Brunette Andrew -- Dowd Jim -- Daigle Alexandre
Laaksonen Antti -- Park Richard -- Pellerin Scott
Dupuis Pascal -- Hendrickson Darby -- Krivokrasov Sergei

Kuba Filip -- Mitchell Willie
Sekeras Lubomir -- Schultz Nick
Bombardir Brad -- Zyuzin Andrei
Marshall Jason -- Benysek Ladislav

Roloson Dwayne
Fernandez Emmanuel
Mclennan Jamie

TOR

Mahovlich Frank -- Apps C.J. Syl -- Conacher Charlie
Drillon Gordie -- Kennedy Ted -- Dye Babe
Jackson Busher -- Keon Dave -- Armstrong George
Smith Sid -- Sundin Mats -- Bailey Ace I.


Horton Tim -- Salming Borje
Stanley Allan -- Brewer Carl
Thomson James R. -- Clancy King
Pratt Babe -- Stanowski Wally

Broda Turk
Bower Johnny
Lumley Harry

DET

Lindsay Ted -- Yzerman Steve -- Howe Gordie
Shanahan Brendan -- Delvecchio Alex -- Aurie Larry
Lewis Herbie -- Fedorov Sergei -- Bruneteau Mud
Pavelich Marty -- Abel Sid -- Carveth Joe

Lidstrom Nicklas -- Kelly Red
Pronovost Marcel -- Goodfellow Ebbie
Stewart Jack -- Coffey Paul
Chelios Chris -- Quackenbush Bill

Sawchuk Terry
Crozier Roger
Lumley Harry

PHI

Leclair John -- Clarke Bobby -- Leach Reggie
Barber Bill -- Lindros Eric -- Recchi Mark
Propp Brian -- Macleish Rick -- Kerr Tim
Lonsberry Ross -- Brind'Amour Rod -- Dornhoefer Gary

Howe Mark -- Desjardins Eric
Watson Jim C. -- Van Impe Ed
Dupont Andre -- Watson Joe
Bladon Tom -- Mccrimmon Brad

Parent Bernie
Hextall Ron
Lindbergh Pell

PIT

Stevens Kevin -- Lemieux Mario -- Jagr Jaromir
Errey Bob -- Francis Ron -- Pronovost Jean
Bourque Phil -- Straka Martin -- Mullen Joe
Loney Troy -- Apps Syl M. -- Kovalev Alexei

Coffey Paul -- Murphy Larry
Carlyle Randy -- Samuelsson Ulf
Stackhouse Ron -- Taglianetti Peter
Stanton Paul -- Jennings Grant

Barrasso Tom
Wregget Ken
Young Wendell