Best Player Post-Expansion To Never Win Any Of These

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  1. Derick*

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    Stanley Cup
    Gold Medal
    World Championship
    Canada Cup / World Cup

    Conn Smythe
    Hart
    Norris
    Art Ross
    Selke
    Calder
    Vezina
    First or Second PSA
     
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    Trevor Linden?
     
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    With the exception of the last category - Brad Park.
     
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    I could be wrong but I think he means "best player to win zero awards" from that list.
     
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    Hence the use of the phrase With the exception of ...
     
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    possibly dino ciccarelli

    also pierre turgeon and bernie federko
     
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    Tough question... I can't think of anyone off the top of my head. Quite the brain teaser you got there.
     
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    Adam Oates? I don't think he ever won anything.
     
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    2nd team all-star 1990-91
     
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    Doesn't Mike Gartner have the distinction of being the only Hall of Famer without the Cup or individual award?
     
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    Bernie Nicholls?
     
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    Could be (did Dino win anything?), but for this thread, he did win the Canada Cup in 1984.
     
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    How about Jeremy Roenick? I guess he was injured in 96, since he wasn't on the US World Cup roster.
     
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    Dennis Maruk is another possibility.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Peter Stastny at some point won a World Championship right? If not, then he fits the bill for everything else.

    If it isn't him, Jeremy Roenick looks to be the best player for this thread, although I guess it isn't the best thing to be associated with.

    Edit: never mind, I see the Calder in the original post, Stastny won it in 1981
     
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    Well, like others have mentioned I think it comes down to Roenick, Turgeon, Federko and Nicholls. Throw in Peter Bondra's name too. I don't think he was on the 2002 Slovak team that won the World Championships - I don't think.

    Brian Propp is a 1987 Canada Cup away from being on this list.

    Darryl Sittler is a Canada Cup and a 1978 2nd team all-star away from being on this list too. I think he'd be #1 if he didn't have those two.
     
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    He was and I think he scored GWG in the final.
     
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    1976 & 1977 - and was just one goal away in 1978.

    But apparently it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
     
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    Yep, he won and scored a GWG in final.

    What about Mike Gartner? .. Uhm, he won Canada cup twice.

    We probably should go with goalie way, in statistical way we could eliminate many awards... What about Vokoun?
     
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    Twice World Championship winner.

    Jeremy Roenick gets my vote. An ankle injury kept him out of the 1996 World Cup.
     
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    Sean Burke is narrowly close to being on this list save for the 1997 Worlds and the 1991 Canada Cup which he was a third stringer.

    I suppose being a back up goalie on a Stanley Cup winner still counts eh? If not, Andy Moog might be the best guy to choose from player or goalie
     
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    Markus Naslund is close, but he has All-Star selections.
     
  23. vadim sharifijanov

    vadim sharifijanov ugh

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    my first thought was cujo. but he was on the '02 olympic team and i'm pretty sure he won a WC gold too.

    brian propp was another thought, but he was on the '88 canada cup team.

    the only guy i can think of who might arguably be better than roenick is tim kerr.
     
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    2nd team all-star - 86/87

    Jean Pronovost?
    13 yrs
    998 games
    391 goals
    383 assists
    774 points
    +49 +/-

    Dave Andreychuk 23 yrs in the NHL, no voted all-star team selections, (but he was named to the game teams in 93/94, 89/90), no individual awards, no world / olympic wins...... finally got a Stanley Cup in his last yr with Tampa Bay.
    1639 games
    640 goals
    698 assists
    1338 points
    +38 +/-

    The winner is probably Mike Gartner. No Stanley Cups. No psa teams. No individual awards....bhut he gets into the HoF.
    19 yrs
    1432 games
    708 goals
    627 assists
    1335 points
    +67 +/-

    How about defensemen?
    Luke Richardson 21 yrs, 1417 games, no awards, no cups, no all-star teams
    Mike Ramsey 17 yrs, 1070 games, a career +218, no awards, no cups, no all-star teams selections
    Roman Hamrlik 18 yrs and counting, 1232 games (13th alltime for dmen), no awards, no cups, no all-star teams
    Kevin Hatcher 16 yrs, 1157 games, 677 total points, no awards, no cups, no all-star teams
    Keith Carney 16yrs, 1018 games, career +164, no awards, no cups, no all-star teams
    Phil Russell, 14 yrs, 1016 games, no awards, no cups, no all-star teams

    Glen Wesley
    20 yrs
    Stanley Cup in final year w/ Carolina
    no all-star teams
    no awards
    1457 games
    128 goals
    409 assists
    537 points
    +66 +/-

    Steve Duschene
    15 yrs
    Stanley Cup in final year w/ Detroit
    no all-star teams
    no awards
    1113 games
    227 goals
    525 assists
    752 points
    +88 +/-

    Phil Housley
    No Stanley Cups
    one psa selections - 2nd team 91/92
    One World Cup gold.
    20 yrs
    1495 games
    338 goals
    894 assists
    1232 points
    -53 +/-

    winner: Teppo Numminen
    20 yrs
    1372 games (39th alltime / 12 alltime for dmen)
    117 goals
    520 assists
    637 points
    +56 +/-
    no awards, no cups, no all-star teams selections
    2 Olympic silvers
    1 Olympic bronze
    1 World Cup silver
     
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    I'm stunned that Roenick was never a first or second team all star. I know his best years he was competing with Gretzky and Lemieux, and then when Gretzky slowed down Lindros and Fedorov came on the scene, but I would have assumed he snuck a 2nd team selection in somewhere.
     

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