Best One-Two Center Punch

Iapyi

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Probably have to go with Gretzky and Messier, but depending on what a person values I could maybe conceive of cases for Beliveau and Richard or Crosby and Malkin. Not that it matters as it wouldn't answer the thread but I could also do with seeing Apps and Kennedy at least listed as an option. Perhaps Maltsev and Petrov among Soviet tandems.

I say the same thing.

Gretzky - Messier are #1 though.
 

MadLuke

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The WORST one-two center punch among successful (Stanley Cup) teams has to be one of the New Jersey teams. Probably it's:

Gomez
Arnott

They are light years away from HHOFers.

And among all time great team, the 1976-1977 Habs ? No center in the league top 20 scorer that year, both those team had dept, wingers, defense, goaltending, etc... Not really a both of there 1-2 center among the conversation for the league top 10 best centers.
 

tony d

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Def Gretzky Messier. 2 all time greats there. When you're done with the Gretzky line, you can't relax as you have the Messier line to contend with.
 

VanIslander

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And among all time great team, the 1976-1977 Habs ? No center in the league top 20 scorer that year, both those team had dept, wingers, defense, goaltending, etc... Not really a both of there 1-2 center among the conversation for the league top 10 best centers.
Jacques Lemaire? ... Bowman lists him as one of the greatest players of all time. He is a highly respected two-way player. He scored 139 playoff points in 145 playoff games, an important part of EIGHT (8) Stanley Cup championships. In 1976-77 he had 19 playoff points in 14 playoff games, second to only Lafleur.

Doug Risebrough had a career year in points and six game winners, but yeah, he was a defensive center first and foremost for all four Stanley Cup teams of that last Habs dynasty.
 

MadLuke

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Lemaire is a good center and part of what was probably the best defensive team ever and top 5 centers in point production during is short career.

The previous year did they had Peter Mahovlich playing center ?
 

Vujtek

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Interesting that Dave Keon - Red Kelly was on the list.

I would think that Dave Keon - Norm Ullman would make a better choice.

Ullman was a very underrated player IMO.

Keon-Kelly won four Stanley Cups together while Keon-Ullman has nothing to show for their time together. Leafs had abysmal playoff record during their time together. So team accomplisments during their time together greatly favor Keon-Kelly duo over Keon-Ullman.
 

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