Makes sense. No way it doesn't get raised up eventually, in Pittsburgh.Partly must be related to Jagr still playing hockey in some form and constant rumor of a return until very recently (https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nh...-to-retire-wont-rule-out-nhl-return-1.4610137), Jagr was still in the nhl in 2017-2018.
But maybe there is something about how things ended with the Penguins ownership/fanbase that is still somewhat in place to explain why he was not an immediate jersey retirement a la Luongo/Ray Bourque for such a legend ? That and how many team he played for.
Have not seen him play but Jacques Lemaire sounds like a good candidate.
Chelios has to be the best defenseman to not have his number retired and if were not including recent retirees like jagr probably the best player overall unless someone really really good hasn't been retired for some reason.
Chelios has to be the best defenseman to not have his number retired and if were not including recent retirees like jagr probably the best player overall unless someone really really good hasn't been retired for some reason.
Yea for sure. Tremendous career but split in three parts between Chicago Montreal and Detroit all that are going to have higher than average standards for retiring a number.Chelios is at a disadvantage because his career was split pretty evenly between Montreal, Chicago and Detroit. If he’d stayed with the Hawks for a few more years he’d be a slam dunk pick for retired #7, especially as a Chicago native.
Didn't know park wasn't retired. Yea that's a damn fine all time first pairing of unretired numbers. I was gonna try to put together an all time roster of guys that haven't had thier numbers retired but I'm much too lazy to research.pretty good debate between Chelios and Brad Park for that crown
Yea for sure. Tremendous career but split in three parts between Chicago Montreal and Detroit all that are going to have higher than average standards for retiring a number.
Chelios is at a disadvantage because his career was split pretty evenly between Montreal, Chicago and Detroit. If he’d stayed with the Hawks for a few more years he’d be a slam dunk pick for retired #7, especially as a Chicago native.
He probably still would have had his jersey retired if he went anywhere but Detroit afterward. It seems like there's still some animosity over that. Plus Seabrook has worn the number through three cups and 14 years now
NeelyCounter question: who is the worst player to have his number retired?
Counter question: who is the worst player to have his number retired?
I doubt DET ever retires Chelios' #24. Chicago eventually will/should. Chelly was not in his prime in March '99 when he was traded to the Wings, even if he helped win 2 cups. Integral piece, for sure, but not an all-time great in a DET uniform, same as Shanahan '96-'06.Detroit used to be super stingy with it, but they recently retired Red Kelly, so I imagine Fedorov and Chelios will be retired in due time. Those three are/were the best I'm aware of. The Leafs had a bunch too, but they and retired all the honoured numbers to appease Dave Keon for their 100th season.
Fedorov and Datsyuk.
I don't think his issues are with the current ownership group. Mario took over the team pretty much right at the end of Jagrs time there. Plus him and Mario seem to still be good friends. It will happen whenever the genetic freak decides to actually retire.Partly must be related to Jagr still playing hockey in some form and constant rumor of a return until very recently (https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nh...-to-retire-wont-rule-out-nhl-return-1.4610137), Jagr was still in the nhl in 2017-2018.
But maybe there is something about how things ended with the Penguins ownership/fanbase that is still somewhat in place to explain why he was not an immediate jersey retirement a la Luongo/Ray Bourque for such a legend ? That and how many team he played for.
Counter question: who is the worst player to have his number retired?
Counter question: who is the worst player to have his number retired?
Ray Bourque in Colorado. NINETY FOUR GAMES (Plus 34 playoffs).
I get they won the cup with him, but seriously?
Worst is probably magnuson, but he’s co retired with pilote
Chelios is at a disadvantage because his career was split pretty evenly between Montreal, Chicago and Detroit. If he’d stayed with the Hawks for a few more years he’d be a slam dunk pick for retired #7, especially as a Chicago native.
pretty good debate between Chelios and Brad Park for that crown
Counter question: who is the worst player to have his number retired?
its def this guy as everyone else is in the hhof . but I dont mind them ackowledging one guy from their wha days as a reminder that time existedAl Hamilton for the Oilers. Only played 31 games for them in the NHL. He played a bunch for them in the WHA, but big whoop.
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