Best late round drafting team since 1990

[Mitch nylander]

Late round as in 3rd round and onwards.

For me

Detroit

1990 - ) Vyacheslav Kozlov (3rd round), Stewart Malgunas ( 4th Round), Jason York (7th round)
1991 -) Chris Osgood (3rd round), Mike Knuble (4th round)
1992 -) Dan Mcgillis (10th round)
1993 -) John Jakopin (4th round), Norm Maracle ( 5th round)
1994 -) Tomas Holmstrom ( 10th round )
1995 - 1996 - 1997 -) n/a
1998 -) Pavel Datsyuk (6th round)
1999 -) Henrik Zetterberg ( 7th Round )
2000-2001 -) None
2002 -) Valterri Filppula (3rd round ), Derek Meech ( 7th round ), Jonathan Ericsson ( 9th round )
2003-) Kyle Quincey ( 4th round )
2004 -) Johan Franzen ( 3rd round )
2005 -) Daren Helm ( 5th round )
2006 -) n/a
2007 -) Joakim Andersson ( 3rd )
2008 -) Gustav Nyquist ( 4th )
2009 -) Andrej Nestrasil ( 3rd ) , Nick Jensen ( 5th )
2010 -) Petr Mrazek ( 5th )
2011 -) Alan Quine ( 3rd ), Alexei Marchenko (7th)
2012 -) Andreas Athanisiou ( 4th )
2013 -) Matthias Janmark ( 3rd )

Most Notable : Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Tomas Holmstrom, Johan Franzen, Vyacheslav Koslov, Chris Osgood, and Valterri Filppula

Best Drafts Prior : 1989 -) Nicklas Lidstrom, Sergei Fedorov , Dallas Drake, Sergei Kostantinov
1983 - ) Joey Kocur, Petr Klima, Stu Grimson, Bob Probert,
1981 - ) Corrado Micalef, Gerard Gallant, Rick Zombo, Robert Nordmark, Greg Stefan, Larry Trader

*note these are only stating late round picks


Overall Analysis -) So many great talented forwards. There drafting abilities in the late round lead to multiple successful teams, to many cup finals. Datsyuk was phenomenal in a class of his own. Zetterberg hit 92 points in his prime overall an amazing player. Holmstrom, Franzen, Filppula, Kozlov, Nyquist, Knuble all spent time in top 6s. Darren Helm, is a great bottom sixer. Athanisou and Janmark are on their way to top 6 forwards. Jason York was a Solid defender, and as is Ericsson. Quincey was decent. Osgood was a legitimate number 1, Mrazek is a decent 1b type, Maracle was an okay backup.

You could make a pretty impressive team only using 3rd and onwards with the wings.

This forward core is pretty sick

Kozlov - Datsyuk - Knuble
Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Franzen
Athanisiou - Filppula - Nyquist
Helm - Andersson - Janmark
Pulkinnen - Quine - Nestrasil
Laing - Sykora - Ritola
Mursak - Callahan - McDonnell
all logged games...

decent defence w/ Jason York, Jonathan Ericsson , Dan Mcgillis, Kyle Quincey, Derek Meech, Nick Jensen, Alexei Marchenko, John Jakopin, Stewart Malgunas

with Osgood, Mrazek, Maracle, and Mcintyre in net
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Understandable if no team beats it. I'm looking to see other impressive draft teams.
No need, to do a big analysis like above. Also don't worry about being bias and posting your own teams, I'm quite interested learning about most teams, and how successful, they've been in the later rounds. I'm assuming teams who've drafted well late lead to team success. Like I stated above, Detroit won 4 stanley cups, and made the finals 6 times throughout this time frame, and most of their core players were drafted in the later rounds.

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[Frk It]

Detroit covered more ground in Europe than any NHL team for awhile. I believe they were the only team that had even seen Datsyuk play prior to the 98 Draft. They had a really great run up until the lockout, the big players on their 08 Cup team conisisted of all later round guys. Really was pretty crazy what they did until the rest of the league took notice and caught up with European scouting.

Yzerman has done a good job with players drafted outside of the 1st round so far for Tampa. Nashville also has a pretty impressive track record outside of the 1st round in the last ~15 years.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Don’t think anybody is going to beat Detroit. Dallas has gotten a few quality players past the first two rounds.

Elite Talent - Jamie Benn, John Klingberg

Top 6/Top 4 - Reilly Smith, Jussi Jokinen, Trevor Daley, Esa Lindell

Starters - Marty Turco, Mike Smith

NHL Regulars (over 300 games) - Jon Sim, Brett McLean, Niko Kapanen, Anttii Miettinen

 

[GAGLine]

Rangers:

1990: Sergei Zubov (5th)
1992: Eric Cairns (3rd)
1993: Todd Marchant (7th)
1994: Eric Boulton (9th), Kim Johnsson (11th)
1995: Marc Savard (4th)
1997: Mike York (6th), Mike Mottau (7th)
2000: Dominic Moore (3rd), Henrik Lundqvist (7th)
2001: Marek Zidlicky (6th)
2002: Petr Prucha (8th)
2004: Ryan Callahan (4th)
2005: Tom Pyatt (4th)
2007: Carl Hagelin (6th)
2008: Dale Weise (4th)
2010: Jesper Fast (6th)
2013: Pavel Buchnevich (3rd), Anthony Duclair (3rd)

All of these players have played 300 or more NHL games except Fast (287), Buchnevich (115) and Duclair (213), but they are all pretty much locks to hit 300.

 

[Henkka]

Detroit covered more ground in Europe than any NHL team for awhile. I believe they were the only team that had even seen Datsyuk play prior to the 98 Draft..

I could imagine it was like seeing Podkolzin WJSS show first time live and nobody else won't see him before the draft.

 

[Jumptheshark]

for me 3rd rounders are not late round picks--

Anything outside the 100 picks--yes those are late picks-taken in the top 100 sorry no

 

[missingmika]

I'd think the Sabres are up there if 1990 is the cut off:
1990 - Richard Smehlik (644 games played)
1991 - Steve Shields (246 games), Sean O'Donnell (1224 games), Brian Holzinger (547 games)
1992- Matt Barnaby (834 games), Yuri Khymelev (263 games)
1993- Scott Nichol (662 games)
1994 - Shane Hnidy (550 games), Steve Webb (321 games), Craig Millar (114 games)
1995, 1996 - None
1997 - Max Afinogenov (651 games), Brian Campbell (1082 games)
1998 - Ales Kotalik (542 games)
1999 - Ryan Miller (737 games)
2000 - Paul Gaustad (727 games)
2001 - None
2002 - Dennis Wideman (815 games)
2003 - Clarke MacArthur (552 games), Jan Hedja (627 games), Nathan Paetsch (167 games)
2004 - Andrej Sekera (683 games), Patrick Kaleta (348 games)
2005 - Marc-Andre Grangini (78 games), Chris Butler (394 games), Nathan Gerbe (396 games)
2006 - Alex Biega (138 games)
2007 - Corey Tropp (149 games), Paul Byron (363 games)
2008 - None
2009 - Brayden McNabb (314 games), Marcus Foligno (424 games)
2010-2011 None
guy that are promising prospects)
2012- Linus Ulmark
2013 - Nick Baptise, Cal Petersen, Sean Malone
2014 - Victor Olofsson
2015 - Will Borgen
2016 - Cliff Pu, Casey Fitzgerald

 

[Tripod]

Detroit certainly got to live off of drafting where others did not.

If the start date is 2000 onward, I am sure other teams would be comparable.

 

[Stealth JD]

Most teams don't have the same scouting staffs for going on 30-years. This would probably be more relevant to look at the past decade rather than results going back farther than from which there are still active players. Regardless of how well Detroit drafted two and a half decades ago, it doesn't really tell anything about the competencies of today's regimes. But by all means, if a post was needed to pat Detroit of yester-year on the back, it's completely understandable given the state of that franchise currently. Fans probably need something to cling to, and I suppose this is as good as any.

 

[Benttheknee]

Ottawa seems to draft well in the late rounds. All have played > 400 games

Ottawa Senators Draft History at hockeydb.com

1993 - Pavol Demitra, #223
1994 - Alfredsson, #133
1996, Sami Salo, #239
1996, Andreas Dackell, #136
1998, Chris Neil, #161
2000, Greg Zanon, #156
2001, Brooks Laich, #193
2003, Brian Elliot, #231
2008, Mark Borowiecki, #139 *
2009, Mike Hoffman, #130
2009, Chris Wideman, #100 **
2010, Mark Stone, #178 *
2011, Ryan Dzingle, #204*
2015, Christian Wolanin, #107 ***
2017, Drake Batherson, #121 ***

* - will likely break 400 GP
** - May break 400GP, was injured last year, recovery issues?
*** - Solid prospects with a chance to break 400GP

 

[Prominence]

^missing jg pageau.

Going forward, i think the best drafting teams are anaheim and tampa.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

San Jose has been pretty good:

1994 - Nabokov
1995 - Kipper
1998 - Samuelsson
1999 - Murray
2001 - Ehrhoff, Clowe
2003 - Pavelski
2004 - Greiss, Mitchell
2007 - Bonino, Braun
2008 - Wingels, Demers


*edit - not quite as good as I thought, as they hit on a lot of 2nd rounders.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

The Isles in this century:

2002 - C Frans Nielsen
2003 - D Bruno Gervais
2004 - D Chris Campoli
2006 - D Andrew MacDonald
2008 - F Matt Martin, D Jared Spurgeon
2009 - F Casey Cizikas, F Anders Lee
2012 - D Adam Pelech
2013 - F Alan Quine
2017 - D Sebastian Aho

I must say, this is a truly miserable turnout - and I'm talking whatsoever, much less for a team that had as many picks as the Isles have had this century.

Lee, Spurgeon, and Nielsen are the only real players of not, one of whom never played a game for the Isles.

Cizikas, Lee, Martin, Pelech, and Aho are still with the organization.

Later rounders of slight note in the 90s include:
F Andreas Johansson (1991), F Derek Armstrong (1992), D Darren Van Impe (1993), Ds Jason Strudwick, Brad Lukowich, & Dick Tarnstrom (1994), F Vladimir Orszagh (1995), D Zdeno Chara (1996), then F Matthias Weinhandl, F Juraj Kolnik, & D Radek Martinek (1999).

Zdeno Chara was ultimately quite the find, but also really the only true player of note here.

Looking at these two lists, it's no surprise that the Isles have spent the better part of the last 28 years being relative afterthoughts for the playoffs.

 

[The don godfather]

It's not late picks but Bruins in the second round are unbeatable and pure magic. Bergeron krecji lucic Carlo and recently donato that's insane.

 

[cjeagle]

The seventh round draft pick for Detroit this year Otto Kivenmaki, a small(5'8") but skilled and fast centerman from Finland, was just named on a top line(as well as 2nd power play line) for his team, Assat, in top tier league in Finland and has done well. He impressed in the Redwings developmental camp last June and has consistently been productive for Finland at the U17 and U18 level. He is looking like a good candidate to be one of Detroit's late round gems.