And to be fair there a buttload of losing.
On the trades
Full trade was Blake, and Rhino for Deadmarsh, Miller, 1st in 2001 (Dave Steckle), Jared Aulin, and a 1st in 2003 (there was some trading so I'm not sure who came from that one). If Blake didn't resign with the Avs LA would have got the 2nd round compensitory pick inplace of the 2003 1st
The three named players in that deal all developed signifigant injury problems soon after the deal, so we're deffinately better off than having kept them. Steckle has a 5D rating right now and the other was a low first. A couple of leaky tug boats, and three row boats for a battleship.
No 1st Avs got Keane along with Roy. This was recognized as under payment at the time. How Montreal didn't take Deadmarsh with Thibault is still a mystery to me. Keane was a great checking forward for us
Not Yelle or a 1st. Theoren Fleury and Chris Dingman for Rene Corbet, Wade Belak, Robyn Regehr and Colorado's 2nd round compensatory choice (Jarret Stoll) in 2002.
Corbet was a good 3rd liner but by that point injury prone last I heard he was in the DEL, Belak became a 2nd rate goon in TO, Calgary had their pick of one prospect in the Avs system it boiled down to Regehr vs Skoula, they chose wisely. Like Blake it was the 1st or the compensitory. Fluery turned out to be a lemon, I've always been of two minds on him; on one hand thank good we walked away from that lemon, on the other I think things may have turned out better if he wasn't in the glare of New York (about the only worse place would have been Toronto.)
Dingman turned out to be a valueable throw-in, played absolutely out of his head in the 2001 Cup run, I wish we had kept him instead of Parker.
Ray Bourque and Dave Andreychuk for Brian Rolston, Martin Grenier, Sami Pahlsson and a 1st round selection (previously acquired, Boston selected Martin Samuelsson) in 2000.
Lacroix somehow fooled Sinden into thinking Pahlson was going to be something special, he unloaded him for Patrick Traverse at the next deadline. Grenier is an AHLer. Samuelson has a 7B rating. Rolston turned around in Boston. So Bourque for Rolston+Samuelson take it in a heart beat.
Avs needed a puck rushing Defenseman, Ozolinsh was inegral in the 96 cup. Scored the Goal that was the turning point of those play offs. Nolan had a couple of slump years soon after the trade.
Lesser names
Washington Capitals traded Steve Konowalchuk and a 3rd round selection in 2004 to the Colorado Avalanche for Bates Battaglia and Jonas Johansson.
Kono for Batters I'll take in a minute. Jury is still out on Johanson, but he's a late 1st in a crappy draft and injury prone. Lacroix said he wasn't going to sign him so the 3rd equals the compensitory pick, give that a wash.
Bates came for Vrbata, I still take Konowalchuk even up for Verb
For a 3rd and Cris Bahen who was in Germany when traded
The deals break down as
Calgary Flames traded Derek Morris, Jeff Shantz and Dean McAmmond to the Colorado Avalanche for Chris Drury and Stephane Yelle.A cadaver for Shantz was overpayment, McAmmond deserved a better shot (Granato
) Yelle needed a change, I'm sorry I know he was great in the cup run last year, but he had stagnated here. Had Morris not dropped off a cliff this year, I could have lived begrudginly with this, but Drury was everyone's favorite. Worst trade in team history.
Phoenix Coyotes traded Chris Gratton, Ossi Vaananen and a 2nd round selection in 2005 to the Colorado Avalanche for Derek Morris and Keith Ballard.
Still waiting on the 2nd (c'mon Peter Stastny!) I like Vaananen, but I suspect we'll end up a player behind in all this mess.
Gratton... well we got him cheap and didn't send four 1sts after citicising another team for being vultures.
Future considerations I believe a 3rd
Nikolishin came in a simular deal
Rhino was traded strait up for Ballard. Buffalo then made the deal with Calgary for Drury
3rd and a 5th, I believe we got a 3rd as compensitory for his free agent signing, good riddance. The 5th eventualy got traded back to the Avs who became Brad Richardson (he might turn out well)
Ville Nieminen and Rick Berry, yeah real Brinks Job by Pittsburgh
Both players left for nothing from the Quinns (Yeah I know). Would have liked to hold onto Kaspar, but not for that contract.
Signed as UFAThat 29 other GM would have made and we're free of those contracts now, unlike other teams still paying off bad debt, see Rag$
DraftedAbid was the 2nd rounder Tanguay, Skoula, Regehr, Parker were the 1sts. Aquiring the 1sts;
San Jose Sharks traded Shean Donovan and 1st round selection (Alex Tanguay) to the Colorado Avalanche for Mike Ricci and 2nd round selection (later traded to the Buffalo Sabres - Jaroslav Kristek) in 1998.In large part a salary move, but not a bad return. Donovan never turned out until last year.
Colorado Avalanche traded Landon Wilson and Anders Myrvold to the Boston Bruins for 1st round selection (Robyn Regehr) in 1998.Boston should stop dealing with Lacroix
Washington Capitals traded Keith Jones, a 1st round selection (Scott Parker) in 1998 and a 4th round selection (later traded back to Washington - Krys Barch) in 1998 to the Colorado Avalanche for Curtis Leschyshyn and Chris Simon.Simon was in the midst of a hold out, didn't like fighting anymore Leschy like him but nothing special. Jones later got swapped for Shjon Podien and soon after fell off a cliff, that turned out to be a steal. Podien got swapped in a lateral move for Keane and he's done unfortunately.
Colorado Avalanche traded Stephane Fiset and 1st round selection (Mathieu Biron) in 1998 to the Los Angeles Kings for Eric Lacroix and 1st round selection (Martin Skoula) in 1998.Fiset was a spare part who got replaced by Craig Billington on th waiver wire. Whole lot of nothing here. Works out to Kurt Sauer and Darby Hendrickson.
Yep and yep. Dave Draper found us alot of talent, them included he stayed on until 98. shame to lose him.
Which he picked.
I don't see Page anywhere now. Credit has to go to Gauthier and Draper for their scouting acumen, yeah Page insured they'd pick forth in 91-92 (Todd Warriner), but his predecesors got him the number 1's overall and Hockey Hershel Walker. Had a good draft in 93, I think you're overrating Page a tad.