Over the last 10 years say, who has had the best drafting record? I don't have the time or tools to look up this, but thought it was interesting. I decided I would start this thread to get some discussion on the topic. So....
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you've gotta take into account the position of drafting :AgentNaslund said:ok.. lets count 1995 draft to the 2005 draft...
I am including back up goalies. I do not include guys who play under 25 NHL games. I only did the best drating teams. not every team is listed here.
I am also not including players have did play games in the NHL prior to this year. EG one guy played in the 04 season as a full timer, but is not in the NHL this season.
New Jersey Devils have 13 players
New York Islanders have 11 players
Vancouver Canucks have 10 players, Peter Schaefar, Matt Cooke Bryan Allen Artem Chubarov Jarkko Ruutu , Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin, R.J Umberger, Kevin Bieska, Ryan Kesler.
Ottawa Senators have 15 players.....
Sharks have 13....
Calgary Flames have 8....
Derek Morris, Steve Begin, Toni LYdman, Oleg Saprykin, Jarret Stoll, Chuck Kobasew, Dion Phaneuf, Kurtis Foster
Penguins have 11.
OIlers have 11.
Habs have 9
Leafs have 7
Adam Mair, Antropov, Brad Boyes, Mikael Tellqvist, Karel Pilar, Kyle Kellwood, Alexander Steen.
Flyers have 9, but in those 9 includes with later picks, the likes of Williams, Gagne, and Mike Richards.
AValanche have 14..
Sabres have 13...
Red Wings have 4..... Jiri Ficher, Nik Krownwall, Datsyuik and Zetterberg within the past 10 draft years.
as i was looking through this, Ottawa sees to have drafted the best players. For a team that is always picking later in the 1st round, players include, Havlat, Volchenkov, MIke Ficher, Patrick Eaves, Meszarous, TEam Gleason, the list goes on. Next up I thought SAn Jose awesome picking up players from the draft.
Calgary has the worst drafting record. 7 of those years, they miss the playoffs, 4 of them top 10 pick, and they still helped the leauge with 8 PLayers.
Leafs is the worst drafting team in the Leauge Nuff said. go to hockeydb and see for yourself.
Coug555 said:Best record in my opinion is the Isles, they just traded them all away once they got them.
Porn* said:you've gotta take into account the position of drafting :
AgentNaslund said:ok.. lets count 1995 draft to the 2005 draft...
I am including back up goalies. I do not include guys who play under 25 NHL games. I only did the best drating teams. not every team is listed here.
I am also not including players have did play games in the NHL prior to this year. EG one guy played in the 04 season as a full timer, but is not in the NHL this season.
New Jersey Devils have 13 players
JimEIV said:I don't understand the criteria: Is it guys who have played at least 25 for the Drafting team? Or just NHL
I come up with a lot more than 13? Even if it just with the Devils I come up with 16? Bold is for sure possibly 22
1995
18 C Petr Sykora
44 L Nathan Perrott Does he count?
79 C Alyn McCauley Does he count?
1996
47 L Pierre Dagenais
49 D Colin White
99 D Willie Mitchell
1997
24 G Jean-Francois Damphouse backup and played 6 games.
131 L Jiri Bicek
215 G Scott Clemmensen
1998
26 D Mike Van Ryn Does he count?
27 C Scott Gomez
37 C Christian Berglund
82 R Brian Gionta
105 L Pierre Dagenais
1999
42 D Mike Commodore
2000
22 D David Hale
62 D Paul Martin
76 L Michael Rupp
135 C Mike Danton Does he count?
2001
163 L Andreas Salomonsson
2002
117 W Cam Janssen
2003
17 C Zach Parise
EDIT:
Ok Prior to this year = Subtract Zach Parise and Cam Janssen. But that is still 14 and Possibly 20 if you go by just NHL time, not team time.
you've gotta take into account the position of drafting :
Kärppä32 said:Ottawa
1995:
1.) Brian Berard
1996:
1.) Chris Phillips
136.) Andreas Dackell
239.) Sami Salo
1997
12.) Marian Hossa
58.) Jani Hurme
119.) Magnus Arvedson
239.) Karel Rachunek
1998
44.) Mike Fisher
161.) Chris Neil
1999
26.) Martin Havlat
94.) Chris Kelly
164.) Martin Prusek
2000
21.) Anton Volchenkov
55.) Antoine Vermette
2001
2.) Jason Spezza
23.) Tim Gleason
99.) Ray Emery
127.) Christoph Schubert
223.) Brandon Bochenski
2002: None so far, but Alexei Kaygorodov looks like a potential 2nd line center and Arttu Luttinen was just signed by the team.
2003
29.) Patrick Eaves
2004
23.) Andrej Meszaros
2005: Lee could be with the team next year. Cody Bass just signed with the Sens
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Overall the Senators are renoun for finding gems in the draft over the years.
AgentNaslund said:as I was saying, I ment players that played more then 25 games in the NHL.
AgentNaslund said:Leafs have 7
Adam Mair, Antropov, Brad Boyes, Mikael Tellqvist, Karel Pilar, Kyle Kellwood, Alexander Steen.
Psst, you have Pierre Dagenais on there twiceJimEIV said:Ok,
But what I'm saying is all these Drafted players played more than 25 NHL games
18 C Petr Sykora ,44 L Nathan Perrott, 79 C Alyn McCauley, 47 L Pierre Dagenais
49 D Colin White , 99 D Willie Mitchell, 131 L Jiri Bicek, 215 G Scott Clemmensen,
26 D Mike Van Ryn, 27 C Scott Gomez, 37 C Christian Berglund, 82 R Brian Gionta,
105 L Pierre Dagenais, 42 D Mike Commodore , 22 D David Hale, 62 D Paul Martin,
76 L Michael Rupp, 135 C Mike Danton, 163 L Andreas Salomonsson.
And the total = 19 .....Matter of Fact most of this list played over 80 NHL games or More with the exception of Andreas Salomonsson, who play one season for NJ and one for Washington for a total of 71 NHL games.
exactly... i must say though boston looks the best to me, given their positions.zetterberg40 said:agreed.. because detorit didnt have a first rounder for a long time, meanwhile bringing in 1 rookie at best per year.. but i wont stand up for them, there track record has been better so it seams lately but who knows
You forgot Matt Stajan, Danny Markov, Carlo Colaiacovo, Johnathan Hedstrom, Alexie Ponikarovsky and Tomas Kaberle that brings the Leafs total to 13AgentNaslund said:ok.. lets count 1995 draft to the 2005 draft...
I am including back up goalies. I do not include guys who play under 25 NHL games. I only did the best drating teams. not every team is listed here.
I am also not including players have did play games in the NHL prior to this year. EG one guy played in the 04 season as a full timer, but is not in the NHL this season.
New Jersey Devils have 13 players
New York Islanders have 11 players
Vancouver Canucks have 10 players, Peter Schaefar, Matt Cooke Bryan Allen Artem Chubarov Jarkko Ruutu , Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin, R.J Umberger, Kevin Bieska, Ryan Kesler.
Ottawa Senators have 15 players.....
Sharks have 13....
Calgary Flames have 8....
Derek Morris, Steve Begin, Toni LYdman, Oleg Saprykin, Jarret Stoll, Chuck Kobasew, Dion Phaneuf, Kurtis Foster
Penguins have 11.
OIlers have 11.
Habs have 9
Leafs have 7
Adam Mair, Antropov, Brad Boyes, Mikael Tellqvist, Karel Pilar, Kyle Kellwood, Alexander Steen.
Flyers have 9, but in those 9 includes with later picks, the likes of Williams, Gagne, and Mike Richards.
AValanche have 14..
Sabres have 13...
Red Wings have 4..... Jiri Ficher, Nik Krownwall, Datsyuik and Zetterberg within the past 10 draft years.
as i was looking through this, Ottawa sees to have drafted the best players. For a team that is always picking later in the 1st round, players include, Havlat, Volchenkov, MIke Ficher, Patrick Eaves, Meszarous, TEam Gleason, the list goes on. Next up I thought SAn Jose awesome picking up players from the draft.
Calgary has the worst drafting record. 7 of those years, they miss the playoffs, 4 of them top 10 pick, and they still helped the leauge with 8 PLayers.
Leafs is the worst drafting team in the Leauge Nuff said. go to hockeydb and see for yourself.
Ponikarovsky , Modin, Yannick Tremblay, and Jonathon Hedstrom brings it to 15.Leafsin2006 said:You forgot Stajan, Markov, Colaiacovo and Tomas Kaberle that brings the Leafs total to 11.
Plus Allan Rourke, Staffan Kronwall and Maxim Kondratiev that brings the total to 18.mooseOAK said:Ponikarovsky , Modin, Yannick Tremblay, and Jonathon Hedstrom brings it to 15.