Best defensive pairings ever

Discussion in 'The History of Hockey' started by Peter25, Jul 20, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. Peter25

    Peter25 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,890
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    What do you think are the best defensive pairings ever? You can pick any pairing from NHL or European level. The only criteria is that the two defensemen have played together as a defensive pairing.
     
  2. CRUNK JUICE

    CRUNK JUICE Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,139
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Home Page:
    Since I'm sure plenty of people will chime in and mention some NHL pairings, I'll bring up Kasatonov and Fetisov for the USSR's Green Unit.
     
  3. Peter25

    Peter25 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,890
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Kasatonov and Fetisov would be my choice as well.

    Others worth mentioning are:

    Suter - MacInnis (Calgary)
    Smith - Chelios (Chicago)
    Pervukhin - Bilyaletdinov (Dynamo Moscow)
    Stevens - Niedermayer (Devils)
    Lidtstrom - Murphy (Detroit)
    Fetisov - Konstantinov (Detroit)
    Bourque - Blake (Colorado)
    Stelnov - Starikov (CSKA)
    Zubov - Malakhov (CSKA)
    Konstantinov - Malakhov (CSKA)
    Pronger - MacInnis (St.Louis)
     
  4. Wisent

    Wisent Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,667
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Mannheim
    Home Page:
    OK, another Soviet blue line. Alexander Ragulin and Alexander Gusev.
     
  5. Colorado Avalanche

    Colorado Avalanche Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2004
    Messages:
    20,215
    Likes Received:
    322
    Trophy Points:
    154
    Location:
    Lieto
    Blake-Foote
    Bourque-Blake
     
  6. Kaizer

    Kaizer Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2003
    Messages:
    4,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Moscow , Russia
    I thought that Bourque was paired with Foote.
     
  7. pp33

    pp33 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 18, 2004
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    59
    Actually Suter didn't play that much with MacInnis. Both had more defensive counterparts during the Flames' prime years, Suter with McCrimmon and Mac with Macoun, I believe. Same goes with Bourque-Blake and Pronger-MacInnis.

    Mentioning McCrimmon, it reminds me of one of the most underrated pairings ever: Mark Howe - McCrimmon.

    Others:

    Smith-Orr
    Stapleton-White
    Potvin-Morrow
    Stevens-Murphy
    Kluzak-Bourque (too bad Kluzak's knee woes ruined his career)
    McPhee-Carbonneau :)
     
  8. Peter25

    Peter25 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,890
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    I don´t think they played together, at least for many years, since Ragulin was a lot older than Gusev.

    Ragulin was the corner stone of the Soviet defense of the 60´s with Viktor Kuzkin and Vitali Davydov. Gusev was more of a 70´s player. The "Big 4" of Gusev, Valeri Vasilyev, Gennady Tsygankov and Vladimir Luchenko were the cornerstone of the Soviet defense of the 70's. Of course later in that decade came in players such as Bilyaletdinov, Pervukhin, Sergei Babinov and Vyacheslav Fetisov.
     
  9. crump

    crump ~ ~ (ړײ) ~ ~

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2004
    Messages:
    9,320
    Likes Received:
    489
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Location:
    Ontariariario
    Serge Savard and Larry Robinson

    and

    Serge Savard and Guy Lapointe


    were pretty good too.




    My Fav Leaf pairings..

    Salming - Turnbull
    Horton - Stanley
    Carl Brewer - Bob Baun
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2005
  10. mcphee

    mcphee Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2003
    Messages:
    19,101
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Savard and Larry Robinson
    Orr and Dallas Smith weren't bad.
    Chelios and Ludwig were tough.
     
  11. John Flyers Fan

    John Flyers Fan Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,416
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Stevens and Niedermayer almost never play together.
     
  12. John Flyers Fan

    John Flyers Fan Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,416
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Mark Howe and Brad McCrimmon should get a nominee or two. They were the best pairing of the mid-80's.

    Combined +/-
    84-85 - 103
    85-86 - 168 .. they finished 1,2 in the NHL
    86-87 - 102
     
  13. Aki Berg

    Aki Berg Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,391
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Aki-ville
    Stevens-Daneyko
    Bourque-Foote
    Robinson-Savard
    Berg-Lumme
    Matvichuk-Hatcher
    Konstantinov-Fetisov
     
  14. Snap Wilson

    Snap Wilson Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2003
    Messages:
    5,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Gets my vote.
     
  15. Zopust

    Zopust Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa, Ontario
    Leetch-Beukeboom
     
  16. VanIslander

    VanIslander Don't waste my time

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2004
    Messages:
    27,261
    Likes Received:
    1,703
    Trophy Points:
    187
    How about the three-time world championship tourney's best defenseman awards between them, three time world championship gold medalist, three time silver medalist, five-time tourney all-star awards between them as well as Olympic silver medalists in Czechoslovakian legends on the blueline:

    Jan Suchy - Frantisek Pospisil

    "They were everywhere and could put the puck anywhere"


    I would agree, even though I detest the Blues, except at the height of their careers together, and certainly in the playoffs, they played on different pairings, so that EITHER Pronger OR MacInnis was ALWAYS on the ice, nearly 30 minutes a game each, and each amazing at their job (grumbling Canucks and Sharks fan here).
     
  17. Ogopogo*

    Ogopogo* Guest

    Stapleton and White were a great pair.
     
  18. Slats432

    Slats432 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2002
    Messages:
    12,815
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    176
    Home Page:
    Did you keep a straight face while typing this?
     
  19. Big Phil

    Big Phil Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2003
    Messages:
    27,331
    Likes Received:
    481
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Robinson and Savard would have been the toughest set to score against IMO. That and they had just as good offensive intentions

    Fetisov and Kasatonov were both pretty complete as well
     
  20. Malefic74

    Malefic74 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2003
    Messages:
    1,758
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Halfway between Nothing and Not Much Else
    Home Page:
    A few who srping to mind are....

    R. Langway-B. Engblom (Montreal/Washington)
    P. Coffey-C. Huddy (Edmonton)
    D. Potvin-K. Morrow (NYIslanders)
    R. Bourque-G. Wesley (Boston)
    B. Leetch-S. Zubov (NYRangers)
    D. Hatcher-S. Zubov (Dallas)
    R. Matvichuk-D. Sydor (Dallas)
    E. Desjardins-M. Schneider (Montreal)
    C. Chelios-S. Smith (Chicago)
    S. Stevens-L. Murphy (Washington)
     
  21. Bacchus

    Bacchus Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2002
    Messages:
    2,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Dickes B
    Home Page:
    I think they only played together on the PP.
    Leetch was paired with Beukeboom at ES.
     
  22. Hedberg

    Hedberg MLD Glue Guy

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    16,397
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    116
    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Who did Doug Harvey play with?
     
  23. naihlflames

    naihlflames Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2003
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Detroit MI
    Konstantinov and Lidstrom could have been unbelievable if they had a few more years together. Lidstrom with his strong two way play and Konstantinov with his open ice hits and strong oulet passes.

    Could have been the best pairing ever. It's a shame what happened to the Vladinator.
     
  24. Malefic74

    Malefic74 Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2003
    Messages:
    1,758
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Halfway between Nothing and Not Much Else
    Home Page:
    Thanks for that, I wasn't 100% on it.
     
  25. gr8haluschak

    gr8haluschak Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2004
    Messages:
    3,223
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    84
    Yeah I don't remember seeing Chopper and Pronger as a pair for St Louis but they did play togther for Team Canada in 2002.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"