Bernier outscoring 5 Wings skaters
- Thread starter Spitfire11
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Crashes the Crease
Henkka
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Obe2kenobe
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Maybe play Bernier on defense when he's not in goal??? Come on Blashill get creative!
izlez
We need more toe-drags/60
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saska sault
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The contract status of the players Yzerman has brought in vs Holland's left overs.... Yzerman gambled with a few low risk moves, no real surprise some aren't performing... Perlini just isn't a good hockey player, Erne is a grinder with limited skill... We didn't lose much in giving them a chance this year.
ArGarBarGar
What do we want!? Unfair!
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Cool. What's your point?
If you are trying to use this as some weird indictment on Yzerman, keep in mind the three players in question are COMBINED paid less than Trevor Daley.
GMR
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FabricDetails
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Gosh that perspective hurts...
I tried to think to myself that maybe this wasn't all that uncommon if you had a goalie like Brodeur or Barrasso but even then it really isn't. And that's not what's going on here anyways. :-(
I tried to think to myself that maybe this wasn't all that uncommon if you had a goalie like Brodeur or Barrasso but even then it really isn't. And that's not what's going on here anyways. :-(
TheOtherOne
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Those guys plus Abdelkader have 13 points in 184 man-games, or 0.07 points per game, or 14 games per point.
I wonder if there's a way to track down some kind of record based on this.
League-wide in terms of individuals, there are only 12 players (incl 2 Red Wings Biega and Ehn) who have played at least 20 games and have fewer points per game than this. Not apples to apples but interesting.
I wonder if there's a way to track down some kind of record based on this.
League-wide in terms of individuals, there are only 12 players (incl 2 Red Wings Biega and Ehn) who have played at least 20 games and have fewer points per game than this. Not apples to apples but interesting.
Gniwder
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Biega is a gap stop for injuries, Perlini was a crap shoot, and Fabbri is a home run.
The only disappointing trade is Erne, especially since he came from Stevie's old franchise, I thought he was familiar with him and saw some up side.
No GM wins every trade, and I would easily have traded all of the assets for just Fabbri, so Stevie's still in the win column as far as trades.
The inability of this team to score is actually astounding, I've never seen a team with so many players projected to finish the season with single digit points. The Caps have 16 players already in double digits, and everyone besides Jensen (lol) is on pace to hit double digits.
Spitfire11
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Pekka Rinne has as manty goals as Ehn, Perlini & Abdelkader COMBINED.
ManwithNoIdentity
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I'm old. I've been watching hockey since the late 70's and can remember games pretty clearly starting in the early 80's. There have been a couple of goalies that were really good at handling the puck and making outlet passes, and picked up a fair number of assists that way. Ron Hextall is one of them. I know he had 6-8 points multiple times in his career. As much as I dislike him, I have to admit that Patrick Roy was another with elite passing skills.
Then there's the case of Grant Fuhr, who once amassed 14 assists in a season. In another season he got 8 helpers. Was Fuhr a good puck handler like Hextall and Roy? No, not really. This is generally how Fuhr was credited with assists - the other team would take a shot and Fuhr would make the save. Paul Coffey would scoop up the rebound and either take the puck coast-to-coast or make a HoF worthy outlet pass to a streaking Gretzky or Kurri for a breakaway goal. Sometimes this even happened when Edmonton was a man down. Fuhr would get credited with a save and an assist for a single touch of the puck.
With the trapezoid behind the net it is a more rare occurrence now, but through hockey history there have been goalies that were good at generating offense and definitely had more points than a number of their teammates.
The cost of those players is virtually nothing. So what's your complaint? The only one I take issue with is Flip and honestly it doesn't matter. His contract is nowhere near as bad as the ones Holland left behind, and this team was going to suck even if Flip was the same player he was 5 or 10 years ago.
Which 3?
This Biaga guy irritates me. He is #7 at best.
Nemeth is a great singing.
Fabbri too.
Yzerman will be tough to discuss. He will get a lot of free pass.
Cyborg Yzerberg
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The players he signs have nothing with Holland to do.
The bad contracts on the other hand have.
I often disagree with the posters here on this board. They think Yzerman should fire Blashill. I think Yzerman has to fix goaltending.
In the interview Yzerman said he was happy with the coach.
Cyborg Yzerberg
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He has only signed stopgap players. We are rebuilding and they don’t matter. We are going to have a very hard time icing a good team while we have multiple terrible players with terrible contracts on the books. Everyone is so fired up about this season; not firing Blashill, not adding a goalie, not doing this, not doing that. The truth is, none of this matters right now, all that matters is getting the best pick possible in the draft, and letting guys like Zadina and Hronek develop. Yzerman gets a long leash, because this is ground zero of our rebuild.
Mlotek
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The Perlini trade was more medium-high risk.
Regula has been showing some real promise in junior.
Didn't like the trade when it happened, not a fan now, and Chicago, of all teams, could make out like gangbusters.
I am quite content with the job Yzerman and Blashill are doing.
I think our core players are doing great and we are getting a top 5 pick.
