Bergevin Needs to get fired

[Louie the Blue]

This is Bergevin’s 9th season as GM.

You’d expect at this point the Canadiens would be at least a consistent playoff team or better.

They aren’t.

He’s had time to put together a high quality roster around Price.

He hasn’t.

They haven’t made it to the ECF since 2014.

What are his excuses?

If it’s Price was hurt or they haven’t had a good backup or had much support overall around Price, well, it’s job to go out and get that.

He should be fired.

 

[bigtim1988]

I feel like I've been seeing this thread pop up every season for the past 10 years. He needs to go; I don't know much about the Habs, but he seems like a totally inept GM from what I see on the surface, and escapes any accountability by firing the coach when he's on the hot-seat

 

[varano]

If bergevins last name is smith.... He would have been gone three years ago.

 

[AvroArrow]

If bergevins last name is smith.... He would have been gone three years ago.

Wrong, he never would've been hired in the first place

 

[RogerR]

If bergevins last name is smith.... He would have been gone three years ago.

Yes. It actually gives him the best job security in the NHL.

 

[varano]

Wrong, he never would've been hired in the first place

Lolol true

 

[Riddum]

He builded his team around Shea Weber and Carey Price 2 members of Team Canada who are very respected around the league. Both are old and their good days are behind !

For real She Weber is very slow and would be a #3 defence man everywhere and is still get #1 ice time because he’s Mr.Canada and has leadership.

Same thing with Price he is done but he won Olympic gold medal ect.. and he is very respected.

Leadership is so overated just do like Ottawa did and rebuild around kokatniemi , Suzuki and Romanov give the team to the kids.

Bergy likes karakter.

But to be honest, the main problems with the Habs are:

-Price is just not good enough these days.
-The special teams are still absolute trash.

 

[RogerRoger]

Habs have been terrible at drafting under Bergevin. Bergevin has been very good with trades and good with FA signing, but can't be that terrible at drafting and have a great team.

 

[Bluesguru]

You can’t get the complete picture of any team in what is a microcosm of the original 6 NHL. You got 4 divisions all playing in their own isolated leagues.

The Canadiens are built to contend and beat other teams but is it their fault they got to play half their schedule against Toronto, Edmonton and Winnipeg? Probably the 3 deepest teams at Center in NHL. Matchup wise, probably not the best for Montreal. Who’s to say in a normal season the Canadiens aren’t having a great season.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Too funny..He was being praised like no tomorrow about 3 weeks ago.
I'm surprised that he's got to fire 3 coaches..?...Most GM's dont get that many.

 

[613Leafer]

Just seems like a team with no clear direction under his tenure. They've surprisingly won the division 3X since he's been the GM, but if you look at the rosters of those teams, none of them have ever looked like legit SC contenders, and the pieces that helped them win those division titles were predominently players that were all there beforehand (Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov, Plekanec, Gallagher, Danault, etc).

The 2017 division title they missed the playoffs both the year before and the year after, so that seems like more of a fluke than an indication of good sustainable team building. If you're a GM for 9 years, that's plenty of time to put your vision in place and build a contender. The focus instead has just been to stay moderately competitive.

 

[dm1371]

Continuous mediocrity due to MB not willing to commit to a full rebuild, though even if he did, Habs are still f***ed because they can't draft. Feels bad to be a fan of this hockey club honestly

 

[dukeofjive]

How the f*** can you not fix that terrible PP in all those years, habs are a good to ok team 5vs 5, Pk is average but that damn PP has been bad since markov left the team it feels like.

Bad contract to price...
Weird signings like Alzner..

Bargain bin has had some good moves but its time to move on. Team is going nowhere

 

[Oneiro]

The worst thing to happen to the Habs is playing in this North Division because it gives ownership the illusion that this group has a shot when they don't.

Another Minnesota/Calgary situation where the young players aren't of the magnitude to move the franchise forward but the presence of older ex-star players is delaying the wake-up call.

 

[sharknado]

So while they were sucking they managed two cups? Man I wish the Leafs could suck that bad.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[ffh]

He needs an extension for all the hard work he has done over the last few years.

 

[GrizzGreen]

This is Bergevin’s 9th season as GM.

Too small of a sample size. Find a new slant.

 

[MSSLYNX]

They way the fan base freaks out if they got a non french coach makes it more satisfying seeing them falling

Fan base in Mtl doesnt care if coaches are francophones or arent.
Only French media does. One should understand why for them its important.
Molson is not forced to oblige French media.

Just look at the recent imterim hiring.
Vast majority of fans is happy.
When Ducharme gets fired, usual whiners will say they only got the job because he is a francophone.

This francophone coach talk is only political talk, not hockey talk. English minority in Quebec still feels they are being disrespected. When a franco coach or a gm like Bergevin gets close to the end, they bring back the language issue.

go back to the Bergevin hiring. Anglos and francos were equally happy or unhappy.

 

[Galactico]

Fan base in Mtl doesnt care if coaches are francophones or arent.
Only French media does. One should understand why for them its important.
Molson is not forced to oblige French media.

Just look at the recent imterim hiring.
Vast majority of fans is happy.
When Ducharme gets fired, usual whiners will say they only got the job because he is a francophone.

This francophone coach talk is only political talk, not hockey talk. English minority in Quebec still feels they are being disrespected. When a franco coach or a gm like Bergevin gets close to the end, they bring back the language issue.

go back to the Bergevin hiring. Anglos and francos were equally happy or unhappy.

I believe the same as you when you say that most fans in Montreal don’t care if the coach is an anglophone. Montreal is an international city, English is everywhere in the city and the residents are used to it.

However, the Canadiens are an institution in the whole province of Quebec where the majority of the population speaks French and lives in a whole other reality. I think the French coach thing is a calculated PR/Marketing strategy by the organization. I believe Molson is not in the business of winning Stanley Cups but in the business of making money and they calculated that it is a better to have a French coach no matter what for the brand and public image of the organization.

Bergevin just follows orders, that’s it. I think that it is also for that reason that they never commited to a full rebuild. They want to make money and they figured they’ll make more if they stay somehow “competitive” while having a French coach/staff.

 

[Kimota]

Don't worry, it's about to happen sooner than you think.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

Just seems like a team with no clear direction under his tenure. They've surprisingly won the division 3X since he's been the GM, but if you look at the rosters of those teams, none of them have ever looked like legit SC contenders, and the pieces that helped them win those division titles were predominently players that were all there beforehand (Price, Pacioretty, Subban, Markov, Plekanec, Gallagher, Danault, etc).

The 2017 division title they missed the playoffs both the year before and the year after, so that seems like more of a fluke than an indication of good sustainable team building. If you're a GM for 9 years, that's plenty of time to put your vision in place and build a contender. The focus instead has just been to stay moderately competitive.

Carey Price won the division 3x’s since Bergevin took over the team. Truth is the more MB put his stamp on this team the worse it got, he just lucked into having the best goalie in the nhl. Bergevin knows who got him to the dance, why else would he sign him to that ridiculous contract

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

They way the fan base freaks out if they got a non french coach makes it more satisfying seeing them falling

i don't think the fan base actually cares that much

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

i don't think the fan base actually cares that much

The media seems far more concerned with language, and I think it could have been avoided had Molson put his foot down when Cunneyworth was named interim headcoach and the french media lost there minds. Should have let them know Montreal would always hire the best personnel regardless of background, but he buckled and now this is what we get.

 

[Dread Clawz]

Continuous mediocrity due to MB not willing to commit to a full rebuild, though even if he did, Habs are still f***ed because they can't draft. Feels bad to be a fan of this hockey club honestly

Yeah but would the Montreal fans and media allow a full rebuild? I feel like that's part of the problem here. If not, then Bergevin hasn't really done that bad of a job. I mean what else is he supposed to do? It looked like a decent team on paper this offseason. But Weber has aged fast and Price is having an off year/or declining.

 

[superstar436]

Continuous mediocrity due to MB not willing to commit to a full rebuild, though even if he did, Habs are still f***ed because they can't draft. Feels bad to be a fan of this hockey club honestly

As long as timmins is with this teams, don't expect much.

Anyway, bergie won't get fired. Molson is not the type of guy who likes to throw money away. There are no potential candidates who speak french. He will stay