Bergeron has not been on the Ice for a Short-handed Goal Against Yet

[Nicholas723]

In no order... these are players I would take ahead of Bergeron

Crosby
Stamkos
Kane
Tavares
Malkin
Toews
Zdeno Chara
Tuukka, Carey Price, Quick, Lundqvist (Build from goal out)

Matt Duchene (when he's healthy, just like his game for some reason)
Alex Pietrangelo + Oliver Ekman Larsson (two rising young defensemen)
James Neal
Getzlaf (Nowhere near the price he was resigned at, however)
Perry


Top 15-20 including Goalies you can start talking Bergeron.

By this time next year he'll be in top ten conversation if he starts putting up big assist/goals numbers. He's already doing extremely well this year.

Already has the Selke, +/- leader, awesome defensively, and does everything well. No question he'll be there eventually.. just not yet.

 

[LouJersey]

WOW now I know why everyone hates us on the main boards lol! Make ludicrous statements like this then get super sensitive when someone proves you guys wrong.

We are seriously over rating Bergie TOO much.

YES HES AWESOME

But Hart trophy consideration? Really?

Isn't top 10 in the league, gets Hart consideration anyway.

sheesh...

So...

He averages a point a game (about)
top 5 in +/-
Will win another Selke
Has not been on the ice for a PPG goal yet and averages 2;30 sh time per game
Is the #1 centerman on the best team in the East.

You don't think he's going to get any Hart votes? he got 2 4th place and 1 5th place last season. If he keeps this up he will be in the top 10.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

WOW now I know why everyone hates us on the main boards lol! Make ludicrous statements like this then get super sensitive when someone proves you guys wrong.

We are seriously over rating Bergie TOO much.

YES HES AWESOME

But Hart trophy consideration? Really?

Isn't top 10 in the league, gets Hart consideration anyway.

sheesh...

"The Hart Memorial Trophy is an annual award given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team."

Bergeron currently leads the Bruins in assists, points, +/-, Face off %, and numerous other stats.

Sounds pretty frickin valuable to me

 

[smithformeragent]

And quite a bargain

 

[Concessionaire]

Pierre Mcguire on M&M: Patrice Bergeron ‘One of the Top 10 Players in the League’

 

[CptxMorgan]

Bergeron reminds me a ton of Tom Brady. Insanely competitive, one of the smartest players in his position, and able to do a lot despite not being overly gifted physically.

He's not the fastest guy, nor does he have the smoothest hands, but his drive and IQ are second to none.

 

[Esquire]

Chara may wear the "C" but Bergy is the heart and soul IMO.

 

[Nicholas723]

"The Hart Memorial Trophy is an annual award given to the player judged to be the most valuable to his team."

Bergeron currently leads the Bruins in assists, points, +/-, Face off %, and numerous other stats.

Sounds pretty frickin valuable to me

Oh he sounds valuable to you?

How about Mr. Crosby putting up unreal numbers? How about Stamkos? Kunitz putting on a show goal scoring wise, Marty St.Louis over in Tampa just dishing the puck (27 assists in 25 games)

Sorry, theres a long line of players doing amazing things outside of the Boston Bruins and Patrice Bergeron.

Get real, no player in Boston will win the Hart for a while (unless it's Seguin when he starts putting up amazing numbers)

Boston plays a team effort and Bergie's numbers are a compilation of what the team has achieved. Not what HE has done for the team. Although HE DOES A LOT ( agreed, he is really the true Captain and is next in line when Chara retires) - although faceoff% is hard to argue, those are his numbers

Bergeron won't even come close to sniffing a Hart trophy unless he picks up his goal scoring and assists. It's going to come down to the stats people look at every day, Goals and Assists - even if the faceoff% and +/- may be more important.

 

[reidy]

WOW now I know why everyone hates us on the main boards lol! Make ludicrous statements like this then get super sensitive when someone proves you guys wrong.

We are seriously over rating Bergie TOO much.

YES HES AWESOME

But Hart trophy consideration? Really?

Isn't top 10 in the league, gets Hart consideration anyway.

sheesh...

He's been probably the best player on one of the best teams in the league. That's kind of the whole point of Hart consideration, no?

 

[bruinsfan46]

He also had an assist on Marchand's first shorthanded goal this year so the Bruins are +1 the entire year on the PK with Bergeron on the ice.

 

[Nicholas723]

He's been probably the best player on one of the best teams in the league. That's kind of the whole point of Hart consideration, no?

No.. he IS the best player on the Bruins.

However that doesn't mean he'll get a consideration for Hart, sorry :\

 

[MTaylorJ1]

Bergeron doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who cares if he gets consideration for the Hart, whether it's deserved or not, my guess is he individual award he's after is the Smythe.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

Oh he sounds valuable to you?

How about Mr. Crosby putting up unreal numbers? How about Stamkos? Kunitz putting on a show goal scoring wise, Marty St.Louis over in Tampa just dishing the puck (27 assists in 25 games)

Sorry, theres a long line of players doing amazing things outside of the Boston Bruins and Patrice Bergeron.

Get real, no player in Boston will win the Hart for a while (unless it's Seguin when he starts putting up amazing numbers)

Boston plays a team effort and Bergie's numbers are a compilation of what the team has achieved. Not what HE has done for the team. Although HE DOES A LOT ( agreed, he is really the true Captain and is next in line when Chara retires) - although faceoff% is hard to argue, those are his numbers

Bergeron won't even come close to sniffing a Hart trophy unless he picks up his goal scoring and assists. It's going to come down to the stats people look at every day, Goals and Assists - even if the faceoff% and +/- may be more important.

Didn't WhamBamCam say he'd be in the top 10 for Hart votes? That he should get some consideration?

Yes there are other guys out there, like St. Louis, Crosby, Kunitz and countless others.

But Bergeron is the best guy on this team this year. And this is one of the best teams in the NHL.

I don't think it's a stretch to say Bergeron should get some votes. Even if the trophy is decided by goals and assists, you can't overlook Bergeron in thinking of guys that are the most important to their team.

 

[LSCII]

Pierre Mcguire on M&M: Patrice Bergeron ‘One of the Top 10 Players in the League’

Do you think McGuire would go on Boston air waves and not say something positive like this? I like PB as a player a lot, and I appreciate the little things he does that make him invaluable, but if you're talking about top 10 individual players, he's just not in that group.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Oh he sounds valuable to you?

How about Mr. Crosby putting up unreal numbers? How about Stamkos? Kunitz putting on a show goal scoring wise, Marty St.Louis over in Tampa just dishing the puck (27 assists in 25 games)

Sorry, theres a long line of players doing amazing things outside of the Boston Bruins and Patrice Bergeron.

Get real, no player in Boston will win the Hart for a while (unless it's Seguin when he starts putting up amazing numbers)

Boston plays a team effort and Bergie's numbers are a compilation of what the team has achieved. Not what HE has done for the team. Although HE DOES A LOT ( agreed, he is really the true Captain and is next in line when Chara retires) - although faceoff% is hard to argue, those are his numbers

Bergeron won't even come close to sniffing a Hart trophy unless he picks up his goal scoring and assists. It's going to come down to the stats people look at every day, Goals and Assists - even if the faceoff% and +/- may be more important.

Look, if the NHL points leader isn't going to finish with over 100 points in a season...than the Hart Trophy is definitely up for grabs for Bergeron should he crack 80 points and is a PPG player. He gets the edge clearly because of his 2 way play.

If someone like Crosby puts up 110, 120 points in that year and there is another guy over 100 than yeah, you can forget about it and Patrice will likely clock in around 10th in the voting. But if the leading scorer has 93 points and Bergeron has 85 he should win that thing every time.



Now...I personally think Marchand is the best player on the line and he's the one that is raising Patrice and Tyler's games and he deserves the Hart consideration. (Especially now those 2 are starting to heat up and Brad is still playing better than 2 bonafide stars who are hot.)

 

[Dellstrom]

I don't care if he's not a top-10 player/center/whatever.

If you want a guy to build around, you can't pick a better guy in the league than him. Terrific both ways, plays in all situations, excels in pressure, a fantastic leader, mentor, and so much more. If you asked for a guy that wins you games, Bergy would be damn near the top on that list. We're so lucky to have him.

 

[Concessionaire]

Do you think McGuire would go on Boston air waves and not say something positive like this?

Sure.

 

[lopey]

I love Bergy's game but he is not going to be considered for the hart because he does not have the offensive numbers. The league looks at offense over defensive skills all the time, even for the Norris trophy for the best defensman. Last year as a "defensman" Chara should of won it, but like I said, offense is everything and Karlson had that hands down

 

[BklyNBruiN]

Allot of nice individual stats and trophies. But if you ask any of these players, they would all tell you they much rather win games and championships.

 

[Trap Jesus]

I really feel that all-around play is massively underrated. What makes defensive play and play away from the puck any less important than offensive play and play with the puck? It is WAY harder to quantify or evaluate defensive play relative to offensive play, so I feel people simply disregard it, or give little to no weight to it.

For example, people pretty much universally accept a guy like Stamkos as a top 3 player in the world simply because of his offense. If you watch him defensively, he is at best sub-par. But no one cares about that because he puts up 50 goals and 90 points a year. I understand there are roles that players fit into, and Stamkos really does not need to be a defensive force or a PK specialist because there are other players that can fill those roles on a team, but when you're evaluating how good a player is overall, why should his all-around play simply get swept under the rug?

When you look at Bergeron, I honestly don't believe you are going to find a more complete player in the NHL. I'm not talking simply about overall offense and overall defense together, I'm talking about every possible little thing that a player can do to help their team win. Can you name even one thing that he does not at least somewhat excel at? You simply are not going to find a player out there that can do so many things so well. And the thing is that he's not simply a jack-of-all trades, doing everything pretty well. There are certain attributes that he has where he's doing it at a very elite level (faceoffs, boards play, puck battles, etc.).

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Usually the guy who wins Hart trophy wins another award or in contention for it(like top 2).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Memorial_Trophy#Winners

I have no time to check but I'd imagine judging from the recent years those guys either won a Rocket Richard or Art Ross to go with the Hart but I may be wrong.

 

[BklyNBruiN]

Especially Patrice B..

 

[BklyNBruiN]

In no order... these are players I would take ahead of Bergeron

Crosby
Stamkos
Kane
Tavares
Malkin
Toews
Zdeno Chara
Tuukka, Carey Price, Quick, Lundqvist (Build from goal out)

Matt Duchene (when he's healthy, just like his game for some reason)
Alex Pietrangelo + Oliver Ekman Larsson (two rising young defensemen)
James Neal
Getzlaf (Nowhere near the price he was resigned at, however)
Perry


Top 15-20 including Goalies you can start talking Bergeron.

By this time next year he'll be in top ten conversation if he starts putting up big assist/goals numbers. He's already doing extremely well this year.

Already has the Selke, +/- leader, awesome defensively, and does everything well. No question he'll be there eventually.. just not yet.

I bet if you asked Coach Julien and Peter C if they would take all or any of these players ahead of Bergy they would say F no!

 

[Esquire]

I don't care if he's not a top-10 player/center/whatever.

If you want a guy to build around, you can't pick a better guy in the league than him. Terrific both ways, plays in all situations, excels in pressure, a fantastic leader, mentor, and so much more. If you asked for a guy that wins you games, Bergy would be damn near the top on that list. We're so lucky to have him.

He put the team on his back in game 7. If you need further proof look at the goal he scored when he drove the net hard and rammed the puck past Luongo, seemingly willing it in. The guy is all heart and has lots of intangibles that don't show up on the score sheet.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

In no order... these are players I would take ahead of Bergeron

Crosby
Stamkos
Kane
Tavares
Malkin
Toews
Zdeno Chara
Tuukka, Carey Price, Quick, Lundqvist (Build from goal out)

Matt Duchene (when he's healthy, just like his game for some reason)
Alex Pietrangelo + Oliver Ekman Larsson (two rising young defensemen)
James Neal
Getzlaf (Nowhere near the price he was resigned at, however)
Perry

No.. he IS the best player on the Bruins.

However that doesn't mean he'll get a consideration for Hart, sorry :\

Kind of contradicting yourself here.