I don't think that's it, although it was a number of years ago and maybe they changed the labeling. I generally like porters a lot, but the stuff I bought had a really odd taste to it. Not good!This?
Me too. I mentioned earlier that there is a great Belgian pub near me where I like to get a sour with my meal. The one I usually get is Petrus Aged Pale Ale. It's so good! It's not over the top sour, but just a little "off", in a good way.
We have a local brewery, Amsterdam, that makes some very hoppy IPAs; one is called 'boneshaker', and the label has a skeleton riding an old style bike, without rubber tires. Last Christmas they had a special package of four boneshakers and a skull-shaped mug. I bought one for each of my kids, who like the beer, and one for my brother-in-law, who's a trucker and biker, and really into skulls. In the summer I was doing some work on his garage, and mentioned that a beer would be good. He goes in the house and brings out two of the boneshakers, both for me. Said he tried one and couldn't drink it, and gave one to a friend who couldn't stand it either. I asked him about the mug, and he said he uses it all the time.
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At the end of the day, after all the hazy, wild yeast, dry-hopped, west-coast, session, etc. IPA's, the classic European pilsner stands out. Impeccably balanced with a unique flavor that in my mind, sets a gold standard. I enjoy most types of beer and feel like a kid in a candy store these days with so many craft breweries. But to me, nothing beats a Czech or German lager, on tap, poured properly with a nice thick head, in a proper glass, in a proper pub in Central Europe. THAT'S the way to truly enjoy a beer.
I like your thinking...err, drinking! One of the best doppels and thankfully distributed around here. Spaten's Optimator isn't bad, and Paulaner's Salvator is good too, but Celebrator is so much better and worth the higher price and packaging (4pack ~$18).
I had a revelation a few years ago. I too enjoyed all the modern kinds of beers that you listed and was at an outdoor restaurant on a summer evening and was disappointed with their limited beer menu. So I "settled" for a Hofbrau on draft. I enjoyed that beer more than any I had had in years. Now I drink a lot less "crafty" beers and a lot more classic stuff. At home right now I've got some DAB, some Pilsner Urquell (just bought it thanks to this thread) and some Sly Fox breakfast stout (local brewery).
was told to avoid beer, for health reasons. but i am not feeling better! i am going insane!! 
Up here in Canada reminded me of a song.i'm dying...
i understand that stout is a general term for 'heavy' beer. i usually prefer the more bitter version, if i am having more than a few, but i love porter, and really enjoy some dark pilsners, like Kostritzer and DAB. we make a decent dark up here in Canada, for the price. Waterloo Dark.
Not 'bad', because there wasn't anything to judge, but Sleeman Clear was just a waste of a bottle. Imagine Bud Light diluted with equal parts water and you get an idea.
Try the GLB 'Shinny Pants'.i'm dying...
i understand that stout is a general term for 'heavy' beer. i usually prefer the more bitter version, if i am having more than a few, but i love porter, and really enjoy some dark pilsners, like Kostritzer and DAB. we make a decent dark up here in Canada, for the price. Waterloo Dark.
Don't know Natty, but thanks to your (non)recommendation, I hopefully never will.
