Bears and NFL Talk LXVI - Tottenham-bound

[RayP]

I don't care for NFL in Europe and still argue they are playing in wrong city/Country

Germany was heart of NFL Europe and has what is likely largest fanbase for NFL in Europe

London has no embraced the NFL nor will it ever

I think you’re the only person ever to care about NFL europe.

 

[Giovi]

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Sources: #Raiders coach Jon Gruden and GM Mike Mayock sent their scouts home for the weekend and they are not expected to return by draft time. The belief is they don’t know who to trust and wanted to clear the room.

Meanwhile, the Raiders rebuild is going swimmingly......

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Way too early prediction time....

vs Packers - win
@ Broncos - win
@ Redskins - win
vs Vikings - win
@ Raiders - win
vs Saints - loss
vs Chargers - win (come from from behind win)
@ Eagles - loss
vs Lions - win
@ Rams - loss
vs Giants - win
@ Lions - win
vs Cowboys - win
@ Packers - loss
vs Chiefs - loss (choked away a late lead)
@ Vikings - win

11-5 overall
5-1 NFC North
6-2 home
5-3 road

Totally kiss of death'd us....

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

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Sources: #Raiders coach Jon Gruden and GM Mike Mayock sent their scouts home for the weekend and they are not expected to return by draft time. The belief is they don’t know who to trust and wanted to clear the room.

Meanwhile, the Raiders rebuild is going swimmingly......

Didn’t know who to trust? What?

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Way too early prediction time....

vs Packers - win
@ Broncos - win
@ Redskins - win
vs Vikings - win
@ Raiders - win
vs Saints - loss
vs Chargers - win (come from from behind win)
@ Eagles - loss
vs Lions - win
@ Rams - loss
vs Giants - win
@ Lions - win
vs Cowboys - win
@ Packers - loss
vs Chiefs - loss (choked away a late lead)
@ Vikings - win

11-5 overall
5-1 NFC North
6-2 home
5-3 road

Totally kiss of death'd us....

I won't go game by game, but that sounds about right.

 

[BK]

Didn’t know who to trust? What?

Totally worth the $100 million...

 

[piteus]

My predictions ...

vs Packers - win
@ Broncos - win
@ Redskins - win
vs Vikings - win
@ Raiders - win
vs Saints - win
vs Chargers - win
@ Eagles - win
vs Lions - win
@ Rams - win
vs Giants - win
@ Lions - win
vs Cowboys - win
@ Packers - win
vs Chiefs - win
@ Vikings - win

16-0 overall
6-0 NFC North
8-0 home
8-0 road

 

[clydesdale line]

That Broncos game is going to be very interesting. Fangio knows us as well as anybody and I think he'll have a very good game plan on Trubisky.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Its not at all unreasonable situation

Those are previous GM scouts and Mayock has extensive scouting material on draft along with his few people he has brought into organization

Also someone or several "Scouts" have been leaking information to media already so its not unreasonable that Mayock and Gruden are dismissing them. As they don't want them leaking Raiders draft plans

Sounds like many are about to be terminated and were only kept on because Raiders initially wanted to wait until after draft to replace them

 

[TLEH]

Its not at all unreasonable situation

Those are previous GM scouts and Mayock has extensive scouting material on draft along with his few people he has brought into organization

Also someone or several "Scouts" have been leaking information to media already so its not unreasonable that Mayock and Gruden are dismissing them. As they don't want them leaking Raiders draft plans

Sounds like many are about to be terminated and were only kept on because Raiders initially wanted to wait until after draft to replace them

I'm going to call you the spin doctor. How you're not a politician or a lawyer I'll never know. They just relieved every single guy that they had hired for the entire draft process 6 days before the draft. You were working with them the whole year on who you wanted to draft in the most important NFL draft for the Raiders in the last 20 years or more and you just dismissed the entire staff who built up all this info and knowledge for you because you didn't trust them? If you don't trust them then what the f*** are the even telling you about these players. Do you trust their pre-draft write ups? Now you're putting the draft in the hands of two people who obviously haven't seen players as extensively as the area scouts. Its a joke and Gruden is a f***ing idiot.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Mayock has not been working the whole year with these people

They were holdover from previous GM and Mayock has more knowledge of draft then these scouts

And it isn't just Gruden/Mayock as several people associated with Mayock or brought into organization by Mayock will be part of process at draft

 

[RayP]

Mayock has not been working the whole year with these people

They were holdover from previous GM and Mayock has more knowledge of draft then these scouts

And it isn't just Gruden/Mayock as several people associated with Mayock or brought into organization by Mayock will be part of process at draft

Why wait until this close to the draft to make this decision? What is the defending of that decision?

 

[MurrayBannerman]

I think we drop @ Rams, @ Broncos, and maybe one divisional game

 

[RayP]

I think we drop @ Rams, @ Broncos, and maybe one divisional game

It's so hard to predict what may or may not happen without Fangio, so I'm not even going to bother guessing who we beat and don't.

 

[BK]

Mayock has not been working the whole year with these people

They were holdover from previous GM and Mayock has more knowledge of draft then these scouts

And it isn't just Gruden/Mayock as several people associated with Mayock or brought into organization by Mayock will be part of process at draft

How does he have more knowledge then all of the scouts? This comment makes no sense as they are the f***ing scouts.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Adam Jahns (former Hawks beat reporter who has been reporting on the Bears for the Sun Times) is joining The Athletic.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Adam Jahns (former Hawks beat reporter who has been reporting on the Bears for the Sun Times) is joining The Athletic.

I finally gave in and joined the athletic last week. There's a deal where you get a whole year for just $36 with the pucksoup promo code (I'm sure there are others as well). Figured I'd give it a go.

 

[piteus]

I finally gave in and joined the athletic last week. There's a deal where you get a whole year for just $36 with the pucksoup promo code (I'm sure there are others as well). Figured I'd give it a go.

I'm sure The Athletic is good content, but does it really move the needle? Right now, the only periodical I'll pay for is the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and the New Yorker. Let us know how you think of it.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

I got it before hockey season, paid like $25 for the year. It's good, but I probably won't renew in the fall (will be $60 or so). I don't read enough to care to pay for it.

 

[piteus]

I got it before hockey season, paid like $25 for the year. It's good, but I probably won't renew in the fall (will be $60 or so). I don't read enough to care to pay for it.

Is it really good analysis, or more locker room gossip / hot takes?

 

[BK]

I'm sure The Athletic is good content, but does it really move the needle? Right now, the only periodical I'll pay for is the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and the New Yorker. Let us know how you think of it.

If you are not getting the Financial Times but are getting those 3, you are have an incomplete collection but in saying that I like the Financial Times a lot more than the WSJ.

 

[piteus]

If you are not getting the Financial Times but are getting those 3, you are have an incomplete collection but in saying that I like the Financial Times a lot more than the WSJ.

I know ... but I look more towards the emerging markets and because I have so much international news flow 24/7, I don't find the FT that enlightening ... although you are correct, I think the FT is a better publication.

With the WSJ, I also get a conservative look at the US combined with the more left of center New York Times. It gives you a better sense of the entire country.

That said, the best paper in NYC is The Post. It is a New York treasure.

 

[clydesdale line]

I got it before hockey season, paid like $25 for the year. It's good, but I probably won't renew in the fall (will be $60 or so). I don't read enough to care to pay for it.

I would wait until Black Friday for your subscription if you want to reup around that time. They have pretty good deals if need be.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

The Athletic is easily worth the $2-3 a month you can get it for.

 

[BK]

I know ... but I look more towards the emerging markets and because I have so much international news flow 24/7, I don't find the FT that enlightening ... although you are correct, I think the FT is a better publication.

With the WSJ, I also get a conservative look at the US combined with the more left of center New York Times. It gives you a better sense of the entire country.

That said, the best paper in NYC is The Post. It is a New York treasure.

I don't disagree for the most part.

I don't read The Post but I am not from NYC.

I just stick to the Financial Times and The Economist lately.