Hey guys while I wait for the Bauer 8000 Defenders to hit eBay I need a decent pair of should pads. Did anyone use (or still uses) the Bauer Vapor 10 from 2005? I can get these cheap from someone I know and just was wondering how they hold up and how much abdominal protection they offer. There really aren't reviews online. If someone could point out the pros and cons and offer up an opinion I would appreciate it. Thanks.