Barzal Or Matthews

[Sidney the Kidney]

Thanks... So if I have a 40oish% it means I'm taking 40% of my teams shots. Do I have that right?

No, it means the 5 players on the ice (you and your 4 teammates) are shooting 40% collectively.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Thanks... So if I have a 40oish% it means I'm taking 40% of my teams shots. Do I have that right?

No, it means that 40% of shots your team takes end up being goals. Like if your team takes 10 shots while you're on the ice and 4 go in

 

[Axel574]

No, it means the 5 players on the ice (you and your 4 teammates) are shooting 40% collectively.

Ahh... Thanks you. I'm spining with all these advanced stats being thrown around but slowly sorting it all out.

 

[Axel574]

No, it means that 40% of shots your team takes end up being goals. Like if your team takes 10 shots while you're on the ice and 4 go in

Thanks. As I said to STK I'm strating to get the hang of all these advanced starts, but still learning.

 

[haulinbass]

I'm a huge fan of both players and have watched them both a lot. I would say Matthews has the edge right now but Barzal is right there with him.

It really depends on your teams needs. Completely different players. Both players dominate the game in their own way. I personally prefer to watch Barzal play, he might be the most exciting player in the league. I really don't like much about the Islanders, but I find myself watching them quite a bit. He plays a lot like Datsyuk did in his prime.

Can't go wrong with either player. Matthews is a franchise player but the reality is, Barzal looks like one too. Doesn't take anything away from Matthews. Not sure why it offends so many Leafs fans that another young player outside of McDavid might be in company with Matthews.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Matthews

 

[ole ole]

How far apart are they or are they on the same level?

They are closer than people think but with Matthews being injury prone the smart money would be on Barzal.

 

[Canadian Finn]

for sure.

I'd trade the injury prone Matthews for Barzal in a second!!!

 

[McShogun99]

You know there's a whole other side of the ice to look at, it's not just about points.

Exactly, being healthy is a huge part of the game. You’re not helping your team if you’re missing 20 games every year. A healthy Matthews i’d take any day over Barzal.

 

[BillNy]

Dude, calm down.

Never!!

 

[Grub]

Matthews for me.

 

[ole ole]

Exactly, being healthy is a huge part of the game. You’re not helping your team if you’re missing 20 games every year. A healthy Matthews i’d take any day over Barzal.

But would you take an injury prone Matthews over Barzal?

 

[Karl Eriksson]

If you think Barzal is more than a 70 pt player....Barzal

 

[Kale Hulls]

Matthews.

I'd take Marner over Barzal too.

 

[Andrei79]

Matthews.

I'd take Marner over Barzal too.

Lol.

 

[Antropovsky]

Lol.

Your "lol" at that post shows your lack of knowledge much more than the poster you quoted.

Marner led the leafs in points last season, was amazing in the playoffs, and has been sensational this season. Don't believe me? Then believe Hrudy and Ferraro who both couldn't say enough about him in recent broadcasts.

 

[Antropovsky]

I'm curious about Barzal's scoring ability... in Junior he broke 15 goals just once. Sure he scored 22 goals last season, but was last season an anomaly? He's only scored 1 goal thus far this season, is not getting a lot of shots... but this seems to be more consistent with his hockey career.

Anyone have an opinion whose watched him a lot over his career?

 

[Dahlin 2 Eichel]

Your "lol" at that post shows your lack of knowledge much more than the poster you quoted.

Marner led the leafs in points last season, was amazing in the playoffs, and has been sensational this season. Don't believe me? Then believe Hrudy and Ferraro who both couldn't say enough about him in recent broadcasts.

Ya listen to the guys that are paid to inflate the leafs, like heellloooo

 

[Antropovsky]

Ya listen to the guys that are paid to inflate the leafs, like heellloooo

This comment proves you have not watched Marner very much at all, and especially not in the second half of last season, the playoffs and early this season.

If Barzal is "lol" better than Marner... than Barzal is already as good as Mcdavid.


Hard to "have to" inflate a player with the below stats:

• 32 points in his final 36 games of last season (on a line with Bozak and JVR)
• 9 points in 7 playoff games (4 points more than the next leaf)
• Has 18 points in 14 games thus far this season.
• 59 points in his past 57 NHL games.

 

[Andrei79]

Your "lol" at that post shows your lack of knowledge much more than the poster you quoted.

Marner led the leafs in points last season, was amazing in the playoffs, and has been sensational this season. Don't believe me? Then believe Hrudy and Ferraro who both couldn't say enough about him in recent broadcasts.

Yes, I'm the one lacking knowledge

Good one. Lol at citing Hrudy and Ferraro. Why don't you cite Marner's mom next ?

 

[Antropovsky]

Yes, I'm the one lacking knowledge

Good one. Lol at citing Hrudy and Ferraro. Why don't you cite Marner's mom next ?

Yes I'm citing Hrudy and Ferraro.

You made a mom joke.. and laughed about someone suggesting you lack knowledge, all in the same sentence.

 

[Andrei79]

This comment proves you have not watched Marner very much at all, and especially not in the second half of last season, the playoffs and early this season.

If Barzal is "lol" better than Marner... than Barzal is already as good as Mcdavid.


Hard to "have to" inflate a player with the below stats:

• 32 points in his final 36 games of last season (on a line with Bozak and JVR)
• 9 points in 7 playoff games (4 points more than the next leaf)
• Has 18 points in 14 games thus far this season.
• 59 points in his past 57 NHL games.

And Barzal's rookie season had him 1 point shy of your savior Tavares' career high... and 16 points over Marner as a rookie center.

Yes, I lol'd at your fellow Leafs fans homerism, but yours is brilliant too. Carry on.

 

[Cotton]

How far apart are they or are they on the same level?

Its like asking if Matt Duchene and Anze Kopitar are on the same level.

Not close imo, he got overhyped playing behind JT. As the actual 1C he has 1 goal in 14 games and is under ppg.

If you want to compare him to a Leaf player a fairer comparison would be Barzal and Kadri.