Barzal Or Matthews

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  1. Phil68

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    How far apart are they or are they on the same level?
     
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    Matthews is clearly a bit better imo

    They aren't that far apart but I'd clearly take Matthews as of right now.
     
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    Slight edge to Matthews.
    Both are in the same tier along with Eichel, Laine and a few others. And below Mac and obviously McDavid. Matthews is a bit better right now but that could easily change if Barzal continues on his trajectory. Matthews is an elite goal scorer and Barzal is an elite playmaker so to an extent depends on team needs.
     
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    Make a poll then. This isn’t main board thread worthy
     
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    Before Tavares lets look at the talent around Matthews, .. And Barzal lets look at the talent around him.. Hmm not sure if Matthews is much better or better.. Rookie season for each having both played full seasons as rookies, Barzal out performed Matthews
     
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    Matthews is better, but Barzal is in that same tier of the top young talent after McDavid
     
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    lol.

    Make a poll. Matthews is better...
     
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    This.

    Now end this thread because we've had it a million times and it's gonna go poorly within the first 2 pages.
     
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    Both teams have pretty good talent on the wing... I don't get this post.
     
  10. Tavares the Noble

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    Let's be honest, it went bad in the OP.
     
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    This will go well im sure...
     
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    How do you make a poll?
     
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    Barzal as he plays more?
     
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    Im a massive Barzal fan but i give slight edge to Matthews. But there is definate potential down the road for it to flip flop for me

    IMO Tavares is sorta the kicker.. Him on TO will make Matthews better where as if JT stayed on Isles, he could have made Barzal better

    That unreal 1,2 punch at center is key
     
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    Matthews
    Tavares
    Barzal
     
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    lmfao holy ****. yes. Auston Matthews has the best 5on5 goal rate since he entered the league by a good margin over McDavid, and by a god damn mile over everyone else, but sure, Pettersson, Barzal, whoever ya got, whatever. Anyone on a hot streak might be better than Matthews. Pens fans were probably justifiably angry when "is Toews/Doughty/Kopitar/whoever better than Crosby??" threads happened, but knowing that Connor McDavid is a million miles ahead of everyone, it's hilarious to me that everyone hot streak of the week makes everyone rush to compare them to the Leafs' best player just because nobody can deal with the Leafs being good. I mean, hey, it's been 15 years, so half this site can hardly remember the Leafs ever being good, but come on, if you're gonna rush to do hot takes, go the extra mile and compare to McDavid/Sid instead of making clear your homer love of your favorite player STILL doesn't outweigh how much you hate the Leafs.
     
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    If Barzal was a Leaf there would be threads about how he's only on pace for 6 goals.
     
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    Matthews
    Barzal
    Tavares.

    Barzal was the best Islander in the second half of last year. Easily.
     
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    I'll take Barzal. Always have preferred players who aren't injury prone.
     
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    Based on anything? Stats? Or personal eye test? Also, why are you using a half seasons sample size?
     
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    Same reason you used a half year sample size for Marner except that in this case Barzal was a rookie who got limited ice time to start out the season and then took on a bigger role as the season went on.
    It’s really not that complicated.
     
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    Slight edge to Matthews but Barzal is closing in on him and injuries will become a concern if Matthews has another mid-level to serious one in the next few years while Barzal continues to play every game.
     
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    Where?

    Barzal and tavares are at best equal, with tavares having more sustainable numbers last year and looking better this season.
     
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    Just trying to help the guy who was wanting to make a poll. No point doing it again if it's going to result the same.

    It probably also helps that Matthews is legitimately the better player
     
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