Barzal is a top-10 centre in the league, isnt he?

[Riseonfire]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

 

[Krewe]

Your argument would make sense when talking about Point and Tampa, but what advantage do the Pens provide Malkin? It's not like Barzal would get better linemates, a longer leash or a system that pads points. Barzal isn't expected to carry his linemates, so wouldn't this switch benefit Malkin?

Not even then, since Point has massively outplayed him this series, despite our top 6 being held together by scotch tape and Kucherov's anger at this point

 

[Krewe]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

Probabaly the better player who can actually score goals?

 

[joe dirte]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

Probably still Point would be my guess.

 

[maacoshark]

Barzal is not better than Malkin, but let's put Barzal on the Penguins and Malkin on the Isles and let's see how many points each put up then.

Barzal just killed the Islanders pp. Coughed the puck up 3 times in a row entering the zone.

 

[BusQuets]

Oof.

 

[snipes]

Few brutal giveaways in OT.

He’s not in the top 10 yet. Somewhere in the 12-20 range for me.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

General post: I'm sorry, Islanders fans. Really. I know it hurts.

 

[DearDiary]

Tunnel vision offensively, too lazy to defend. Top 10 center

 

[Cotton]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

I don’t even think they’re on the same tier. Barzal is a low-end 1C who only went P/pg as a rookie because Tavares shielded him, he’s been a 60pts player otherwise. Point on the other hand is a legit top 10 at this point, could be the next Bergeron.

 

[dbieon12]

Barzal had 4 points in the series (Series: 0G, 4A, 11S, -5, ~140 minutes)
Point had 5 points in game 1 (Series: 3G, 4A, 11S, +6, ~70 minutes)

Still impressive overall for Barzal, though.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Yea we get it, Barzal has a lot of work to do. Come on in everyone, sprinkle some salt in the wound. You'd take him on your team in a heartbeat.

 

[Speedtrials]

No doubt Barzal is really skilled. However, this playoff series was not a good showing at all. Knowing Lou from when he ran the Devils, he is going to have a serious talk with Barzal about needing to mature as a player.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Unfortunately my team took Meier instead of Barzal in that draft. Then Dallas went off the board and took some kid named Gurianov ahead of Barzal. Then Boston had three picks and did not pick Barzal.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

No doubt Barzal is really skilled. However, this playoff series was not a good showing at all. Knowing Lou from when he ran the Devils, he is going to have a serious talk with Barzal about needing to mature as a player.

Or maybe he just made himself cheaper for the Islanders to extend. Lou playing the long con.

 

[SnakeIdol]

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

You were saying?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Not a top 10 center, but had the best view of that OT winner.

 

[DFC]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

Point, no question.

 

[DFC]

Yea we get it, Barzal has a lot of work to do. Come on in everyone, sprinkle some salt in the wound. You'd take him on your team in a heartbeat.

Of course. Anyone would take him on their team in a heartbeat. Anyone would take any of the top, what, 60 centers in the league in a heartbeat? The question where he fits in the hierarchy of centers. He's near the top; just not in the top handful.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

Of course. Anyone would take him on their team in a heartbeat. Anyone would take any of the top, what, 60 centers in the league in a heartbeat? The question where he fits in the hierarchy of centers. He's near the top; just not in the top handful.

No argument from this Isles fan. Something tells me this thread will be opened one day like a time capsule, but for now, it's work to do for Barzal. Look at what MacKinnon did after struggling, use that as inspiration and come back better and stronger next season.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Yes Barzal got it handed to him by Point, but he is a great centre now who will only continue to improve.

There are some awful posts on Barzal here..wildly inaccurate.

 

[DFC]

No argument from this Isles fan. Something tells me this thread will be opened one day like a time capsule, but for now, it's work to do for Barzal. Look at what MacKinnon did after struggling, use that as inspiration and come back better and stronger next season.

I think he will take another step. To me, it's all about a willingness to funnel things toward the net, which can be tough, but that's about all that's separating him from the top guys. Too many of his plays are benign.

Never know -- might be a blessing in disguise if this series shaves some $ off his new contract.

 

[Subbanned]

If Barzal was traded for Point straight up, who would put up more points next season?

Hmm.

Point. He actually knows how to score goals...

 

[flyerslducks]

Question for everyone - last year, Barzal finished 24th overall in terms of asset value in the NHL.

How far does he move up this season? (or down, I guess is possible). Obviously his contract will impact that a little. I could see him passing Marner, but I am not sure he can move that much further up yet.

31	20	Point	Lightning	6.8	2 RFA
30	21	Svechnikov	Hurricanes	ELC	1
29	22	Marner	Leafs	10.9	5
28	23	Scheifele	Jets	6.1	4
27	24	Barzal	Islanders	RFA	0
26	25	Rantanen	Avalanche	9.3	5
25	26	Chabot	Senators	RFA	0
24	27	Couturier	Flyers	4.3	2
23	28	Ovechkin	Capitals	9.5	1
22	29	Slavin	Hurricanes	5.3	5
21	30	Laine	Jets	6.8	1 RFA
20	31	Zibanejad	Rangers	5.4	2

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Mackinnon has to be #1 on this list right? what is the top 5

 

[dlawong]

No argument from this Isles fan. Something tells me this thread will be opened one day like a time capsule, but for now, it's work to do for Barzal. Look at what MacKinnon did after struggling, use that as inspiration and come back better and stronger next season.

As an Isles fan, please do not compare him to MacKinnon. MacKinnon was compared to Crosby in his junior year and there is no such talk about Barzal ever. Barzal will be good but he can never be anything close to MacKinnon.