Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by cj19, Sep 23, 2018.
I rank this proposal a :
You realize just being a leafs player/prospect doesnt give you value
At the same time, it doesn't reduce value.
I am pretty sure Barb would be worth an early 2nd round pick . Would rather have that then Hyman.
Bar Bar Bar
Bar Bar Barbashev
(Babcock would resign immediately if his son was traded)
Barbeshev is a good young player with some upside but Hyman is a lot more useful to the Leafs right now.
And as for the actual likelihood of this trade. Babcock trusts Hyman with his life. He would probably resign in protest if he was traded.
This is a super easy no for the Leafs.
This doesn't make sense for either team.
Hyman is the better player and on a solid contract for the next few years, no reason for the Leafs to move him for a maybe with middle-6 upside.
The Blues don't need a $2.25m player that would be on our fourth line, particularly when we're quite tight against the cap going forward.
Why on earth would the Leafs do this?
Hyman is a local boy who works his ass off signed to a 2.25M contract through 2020-2021. He just came off a 40 point season and is our top Pking forward.
What!!! You mean Hyman wouldn't instantly slot in as BLues top line winger?
While I agree that Hyman's value to the Leafs is much higher than it is to the rest of the league, at the very worst case scenario think of what a useful player like him would fetch at the deadline. It's most certainly more than what Barbashev's value is. What is Barbashev's upside at this point? Hyman?
Makes zero sense for the Leafs.
Far from a Leafs fan but not sure why anybody would say this is a good deal for Toronto or laughable in value...seems like pure reactionary anti-Leafs sentiment.
Hyman may get laughed at for being a “top line winger” but he has a very well defined and solid role. I’ll be quite surprised at this point if Barbashev ends up being as useful of an NHL player. You can only string along the “upside” tag so long.
Not that any of these proposals are good made by this OP but its interesting to see you as one of the first posters in every trade thread regarding a Leafs player.
Barbashev's career high is 13 points. Hyman's is 40.
Pump the brakes.
I'm convinced some people have "bad for x" programmed into their computer for when a Leafs proposal is made.
I'm not a big Hyman fan at all but Barbashev doesn't get you Hyman.
Barbashev is a borderline player at this point. He had 10 points in 20 AHL games last year.
I'd be happy if Barbashev at this point got a 3rd. The main issue is what would the Blues due with Hyman? A total non-need at this point and doesn't follow the direction the Blues are heading with introducing some of their prospects this year.
Schwartz - Tarasenko
Fabbri - Perron
Maroon - Steen
Where exactly is the wing spot in St Louis' top 9 for Hyman? I also doubt the Leafs want to trade Hyman for a healthy scratch centre.
This is like the definition of a "why does either team do this" proposal. Blues right now are silly on the wing, possibly even more so with Kyrou and Blais making such a strong push in camp, so Hyman doesn't move the needle for them. And the Leafs would be trading the better more established player for a player who doesn't really fit for them.
Both guys feel like better "player moved for a 2nd/3rd round pick" then even exchange to me.
Every team needs players like Hyman, he's amongst the very best forcheckers in the league and is a top penalty-killer. What you would do with him is utilize him and be a harder team to play against.
Hyman is one of Babcocks favorites and utilized as a top line winger. He’s local and has an effort level second to none. Unfortunately he’s more of a second/third line tweener that is being played over his head. It’s often frustrating to watch him skate circles around the opposition only to trip and fall or shoot the puck wide of the net, but there’s no denying that he’s a good possession player. He’s not really a prospect in my eyes and probably has some value, but I’m not sure he has this much value. Although it may require an overpayment to pry him away from Babcock.
Blues don’t have cap space to fit in another contract.
doesn't make sense from any angle
Your missing my point. How do they fit him against the cap, and then who sits to make room for him?
If the Blues traded Barbashev, I’d want a futures return that didn’t add to the logjam at wing nor the salary cap liabilities.
And aside from it not making sense for us, I don’t get why Toronto would do it either.
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